YOU BOYS REALLY WANNA SEE THIS

[The girl next door]

Download this and watch the video.... FOOK ME

http://www.thegirlnextdoor.de/KorgRadias.zip

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[The girl next door]

I WANT ONE

[The girl next door]

Is that a USB cable in the back of that thing????? :lol:

[Khazul]

Suffering from a bout of GAS there by any chance? :lol:


Have to agree - its growing on me - best thing to come out of Korg since the M1 :)

A few bits in demo vid did sound like they were very specifically aimed at attracting us Virus users :)

Im sure Ive heard something allmost identical in the vengence demos on the access site.

[moroe]

argh, radias has a build in step sequencer 8O

the next virus needs one too

[Midi_Glider]

Sure looks sleek.

Unfortunately, I wasn`t very impressed by the sounds. the pads sound lush enough, but all the rest sound rather... errr... cheesy.



seems nothing more then an (over) expensive Toy... :? \

Best,
midi.

[F5D]

The sound of the Radias is imo ok. Reminds me alot of MS2000 but somehow better. In fact I liked the MS2000 altough it didn't sound so analog. I would like to have one but the price is too high. $1000 would have been a better price. Alesis and Roland have given good examples of todays pricing. Take a look at Ion and SH201. Also the Andromeda is ridiculously low priced considering that it is a high end synth and cost way over 3000 euros earlier (the price is ~2200 euros in Europe now). These companies have reduced the prices because software is so cheap (or free) and they have to compete against software. Btw, I have never seen Access dropping their prices with any model.

[Timo]

I think it's a very similar engine to the high-definition AL-1 analogue board used in the Korg Oasys.

The first thing I noticed when hearing it at Namm was it's virus-like sound. It can even store snippets of samples and vocals, and vocoding too.

Just the price (as always with Korg :roll: ) that puts me off.

If Korg ever brings out a successor (with physicial modelling as well as the analogue stuff and more) to the Z1, I'm sold. A couple of years down the line I think they will. They've already bought out "plucked string" physical modelling algorithms for the Oasys, which sound absolutely great. But I don't want an Oasys, just a dedicated hardcore synthesis synth instead.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Access is not a big company like Roland, korg and yamaha. Just think about how many products these companies make. I bet you anything alot of their products are covered by others.....meaning that some products are inevitably flops....

Access on the otherhand have one product - synths (in several flavours). Access cant afford a flop....they have no other products to cover themselves with. Big companies can afford to cut back features and mass produce for cheap (SH201). It would not be viable for a company like Access to regress and make ever simpler products....they'd get blown out of water by lots of other companies doing the same thing....all battling for a small market share. Nope.....this is why Access are committed to continually evolving their range.....steadily getting ever more complex (but at the same time refined). This is Access's destiny - where it will lead is anyone's guess.....but im sure they will be along round for a long time to come. Why? Because they have balls. They may not always get things right....but they do try (alot of other companies take the easy road and emulate Prophet 5's.....hmmm Arturia).

Dispite all the bickering and tensions.....I say good on you Access for trying....the day Access stop trying will be the doomsday :wink:

DS

[Midi_Glider]

Btw, I have never seen Access dropping their prices with any model.

Well, unless you consider the classic model, of course...

In any case, I always thought the Viruses were very reasonably priced synths to begin with...not cheap by any means, but always offered a damn good bang for the buck in comparison to some other products. thats a very fair approach by access, IMO (as oppose to some other companies bloating the initial price tag of a synth with the intention of offering it later in a special "discount" price).


Best,
midi.

[mind_over_gravity]

I'm thinking to get one ?!
somebody knows when the synth is shipping

[dr. orange]

FOOK ME
hmmm 8O

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Why wouldnt you fuck the girl next door? Im living in a street full of student houses and im surrounded by fit girls. Go on Dr Orange you know you want to :lol:

DS

[The girl next door]

Why wouldnt you fuck the girl next door? Im living in a street full of student houses and im surrounded by fit girls. Go on Dr Orange you know you want to :lol:

DS
My girl next door/Real neighbour is a minger...Anyway the reason why were called the girl next door is cause we have a singing booth in the room next door and we only do vocal trance with girls/women (Cause they have better voices)hence the name "THE GIRL NEXT DOOR".... :lol:

[Mister Orange]

Hope none of your singers are mingers :lol:

Mr O

[The girl next door]

Hope none of your singers are mingers :lol:

Mr O
NO just my neighbours a minger...

[Khazul]

Anyway the reason why were called the girl next door is cause we have a singing booth in the room next door and we only do vocal trance with girls/women (Cause they have better voices)hence the name "THE GIRL NEXT DOOR".... :lol:

Actually thats quite a good idea for if yr other half starts nagging - lock her in the booth with the mic turned off/down low ;)

[technomonster]

i really enjoy listening to the girls - the GIRL NEXT DOOR use to sing.

if by any chance could the guys in GIRL NEXT DOOR send some of their singing babes here to AUSTRALIA, to sing for me. :D :D

[The girl next door]

i really enjoy listening to the girls - the GIRL NEXT DOOR use to sing.

if by any chance could the guys in GIRL NEXT DOOR send some of their singing babes here to AUSTRALIA, to sing for me. :D :D
Send us the cash for a plane ticket and we'll all come over to taste some amber nectar... :wink:

[Timo]

http://www.korg.de/media/images/products/detail/Radias_1_1.jpg

http://www.korg.de/media/images/products/detail/Radias_1_5.jpg

http://www.korg.de/media/images/products/detail/Radias_1_4.jpg

[Khazul]

Actually the synth section looks a bit sparse for a decent modern VA:
2 LFOs
3 Env Gens (nice)
6 Slot matrix, but only one dest per slot
It does at least have a separate noise source.
A dedicated LFO for Vibrato?
Nothing Labelled FM?

Not familiar with Korg VAs, but actually the VA in the V-Synth look more capable from those screen shots, and I consider that one to be generally less capable in some ways than the Virus.

I personally prefer 3 osc VA synths. The one exception I guess is the V-Synth which makes up for it by having envelope generators on just about everything and an LFO generator in each block (per osc, per filter etc) so you can get some amazing evolving sounds out of its VA that alot of synths cant match.

[Timo]

Yeah, in a way I'm surpised at korg not adding extra features in the LFO, and EG area. The Z1, for example, had:

* 2 x Osc's, + 1 x VERY flexible Sub Osc, + 1 x Noise gen
* 4 x assignable LFOs
* 4 x assignable EGs, plus 1 x dedicated Amp EG

However, the rest of the Radias looks pretty darn funky.

[Hollowcell]

I'm keen to try one out actually. I'd like to know what parametres you can use to play around with the PCMs for a start. Loading your own is the next question I want answered.

I do like the general sound of it judging by the demos, but I'd really like to hear one first hand.

[Khazul]

Hmmm - someone posted to the HC-KSS forums that this thing had variable slope filters on it.

I am starting to wonder of the plugin/editor for this thing is giving a simplified view to cram everything onto a single plugin screen...

[cortexxious]

I get my Radias at the end of February :wink:

[Khazul]

Feb? - I thought they were being released in April?

[The girl next door]

I get my Radias at the end of February :wink:
And???whats the damage?

[cortexxious]

price was $2100 canadian (inc the $200 keyboard option) and the store is getting it as a store demo but dont want a demo so i get if from the first batch that were built for orders taken at the NAMM show.

Korg told the store they have 2 models left from the first batch , second batch wont ship from Korg for another 3 months :wink:

I was in the right place at the right time for this one 8)

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Synths these days....i dont know. More and more features that only sound designers would wish to utilise (suits me....but what about you?). When will the list of features stop and they actually try and make oscilators that sound fat like analog - you know what i mean?

Its like a chef trying to organise and cook a state dinner using shitty substandard ingredients. I heard nothing in that video that made me think...hmmm thats interesting. If they said they had a couple of analog filters in there (for instance to be used with monophonic bass and lead sounds/patches) then it would suddenly become more attractive to me.

The future of virtual analog, in my opinion will include an analog filter so that bass and lead patches could finally have more oomph. Pad sounds etc dont have to run through an analog filter.....imho

What do ya reckon?

DS

[Zephod]

DIGITAL SCREAMS: how about measuring some of those filters in analog synths so us audiocoders get some tangible differences in audio to try and model? I always hear "analog is better" but its always purely subjective, never a pointer to a graph on =what= is actually better.. phaseresponse? nonlinear filtering based on amplitude? frequency response? random static noise caused by radio russia? Since the input/output of a filter is nicely 2dimensional, its not that hard to actually sit down and do the measurements if you have the synths available. (small sidenote: if you can hear the difference between an analog synth and a digital synth -on a cd- that means that at least the properties of an analog synth can be reproduced by a digital system.. which means its certainly worth checking out in what part of the signal chain things get interesting)