Virus Vs JP-8000..which basic waveform is fatter?

[K.E.M.]

Yeah, I was wondering that, because that was one of the things that was stolen from me, and that's one of the main reasons I'm seriously considering a Virus. I was intending to get the Virus anyway, but now I want one more than ever before...but I dunno, cna you guys help me with some of your own opinions? ^_^;;

[ten]

I own both a JP8080 and virus and with regards to the saw waveform I personally think the 8080 sounds better, not necessarily fatter. The JP seems to fill up the spectrum much more evenly where as the virus tends to die in the high frequencies for some reason. Dont get me wrong, they both sound shit hot and they are both good at different sounds, but for a a nice crisp rich saw wave I would go for the 8080 everytime.

Of course this may change with the TI (although I doubt it as the basic sound engine is the same) we will have to wait and see.

For fatness though the TI's hypersaw in unison is going to slay anything.

ten

[MADSTATION]

You should try them both FIRST and also make sure to know about synthesis before you get a VA! Or at least, plan a few weeks/months to discover how it works

It's not about which one sounds fatter, it's about what you need for your particuliar style of music. I actually own a JP8080 and I used to own a Virus and both have a really different character. If you have only 1 synth, then I would say go for the Virus for more poly and multimode. If you already have quite a few synths, then the jp might be able to fill that gap

[Wandering Kid]

i always thought the unison on the virus was very...hmmm...how should i say...'loose.' it sounds almost messy :\

[Nigel Harkness]

Originally Posted by MADSTATION

make sure to know about synthesis before you get a VA! Or at least, plan a few weeks/months to discover how it works

The Virus is my first hardware synth, I already know quite a bit about synthesis but i'm just curious what you mean by this statement?

[ben crosland]

I think you'll find the Hypersaw in the TI will see the JP off nicely.

[Merlot]

Ben (and Marc),
How about a multi demo. Use the hypersaw excessively and show us that it is fatter. C'mon!!!!

[MADSTATION]

My statement was just to make sure that nobody ends up in the situation I was 2-3 years ago! I bought Virus+jp8080+fr777 all at once, with no previous experience with hardware or synthesis...That's not the right thing to do! I should have bought a jp first, learn synthesis, then move on to the virus, and so on.

And Ben...WE WANT A MULTI demo! It's hard to believe that the hypersaw could sound fatter than the supersaw in the JP8080.

[ben crosland]

Originally Posted by MADSTATION

It's hard to believe that the hypersaw could sound fatter than the supersaw in the JP8080.

Well, for one thing the Hypersaw can generate up to 9 saws, vs the JP's 7. Only a subtle difference, I know, but then it also has more flexibility, courtesy of the internal sync and sub-oscillators.

Remember, this is a brand new algorithm - it doesn't just stack up 9 of the Virus' saws, so comparisons with earlier models running in Unison mode are irrelevant.

[tranzash]

Hypersaw+sq is going to blow supersaw out of the boat