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Old 05.03.2007, 11:47 AM
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Maybe its you who believes in the conspiracy theory. i.e. the Official story




For anone who is interested, I find this to be one of the better info-mentaries on the blatent 9/11 cover-up.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...99104255077250


XLR8, what's your views on this following clip where BBC reports the WTC7 collapse 20+ minutes before it actually occurs?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49f_1172526096
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XLR8, what's your views on this following clip where BBC reports the WTC7 collapse 20+ minutes before it actually occurs?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49f_1172526096
1) How is the time established? On the video there is no clock and no announcement of the hour. (Not when they go through the top-of-the-hour routine). Please go through the process by which one obtains this video, step by step, and establishes the time.

2) Assuming it's 10 pm as you say. What gives you the impression it was BST (British Summer Time)?
http://www.timeanddate.com/library/...nes/eu/bst.html

This is BBC World Service, not a national British feed. They are broadcast by satellite on a global scale and would never use BST but GMT (Greenwich Mean Time), also known as UTC (Universal Time, Coordinated).
http://www.timeanddate.com/library/...nes/eu/bst.html

GMT/UTC never jumps for anyone's national idea of daylight savings time. Thus the time used by local clocks in Greenwich on 9/11/2001 would be BST or UTC+1.

New York on 9/11/2001 was on EDT (Eastern Daylight Time), not EST (Eastern Standard Time), as you indicate on the title you added. EDT is UTC -4.
http://www.timeanddate.com/library/...nes/na/edt.html

WTC 7 collapsed at 5:20 pm EDT. 10 pm GMT is 6 pm EDT.

That would mean that in the clip you have chosen, the BBC anchor is conveying the information about the collapse of the Salomon Brotheres Building (a.k.a. WTC 7) at 5:57 pm EDT or approximately 37 minutes after the event.

3)But that still doesn't explain how she is telling you that building number 7 has come down when she is stood infront of it right?
Well, the answer is so obvious: the animated arrow isn't even pointing at the building number 7 because it has been already collapsed.

4)Doesn't BBC news usually have a time stamp on screen? Why on this video it's been removed by the editor, what's the reason for doing this?

5)http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons Any questions?
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If before shooting off with your ignorance and arrogance you had gone to the source link shown at the begining of this smaller clip you would see that the full file is available there, and on downloading and watching this file you would see further the EST timestamp.

Also, if you had done a simple google search you would see that BBC has already made a statement on this clip, and amongst some lame excuses claim that they have lost all their 9/11 footage. Well fancy that eh?

btw - Your Jihadist website is owned by a Canadian with a Paypal account
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Lol, look at yourself before you speak about ignorance and arrogance.
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Oh another reason I can't believe it was an inside job.

If the (now multiple) governments involved were so clever to organise this whole thing without anyone catching them out beforehand why were they so stupid to have it pinned on al queda rather than Iraq and Saddam Hussein seeing as that is where they ultimately wanted to invade.

That just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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why were they so stupid to have it pinned on al queda rather than Iraq and Saddam Hussein seeing as that is where they ultimately wanted to invade.
May have been because Al-Queda is CIA funded? and Afghanistan is an easy target with easy access to Oil and Opium fields? 2 Big money spinners.

Al Queda & CIA funding - http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...ding&spell= 1


New Afghanistan Oil pipepline - http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...line&sp ell=1

CIA drug trafficking in Afghanistan - http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...afficking&meta=


Afghanistan also provides a very good strategic toe hold in the middle East.

Its not really so stupid when looked at in terms of gaining financial and military advantages in this apparently ongoing conquest. Iraq like Afghanistan is only another step along the way.

Careful not to dimiss anything without first doing some proper research.

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May have been because Al-Queda is CIA funded? and Afghanistan is an easy target with easy access to Oil and Opium fields? 2 Big money spinners.

Its not really so stupid when looked at in terms of gaining financial and military advantages in this apparently ongoing conquest. Iraq like Afghanistan is only another step along the way.

Careful not to dimiss anything without first doing some proper research.
Al Queda, or the people now involved were originally funded and helped by the CIA, this does not mean they are currently funded by them. Also if Al queda are controlled by the CIA then why did they bomb a US warship in the middle east, along with embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania? Seems odd that a US controlled group would do that.

The more you follow what this alleged conspiracy would mean in terms of actual events that have occurred the more and more you have to explain and draw into the conspiracy.

So far you have drawn in the US Government and other governments, the FBI the CIA, air traffic controllers, the BBC and the rest of the world media, private security firms, private demolition firms, the families of people on at least one jet airliner, police, fire and rescue teams from several cities and god knows who else.

It just gets ridiculous. If you want to believe this nonsense go ahead but you have to throw so much common sense out the window to accept the conspiracy theory that it means you are being willingly stupid.

As I've said before, the US Government couldn't keep quiet the tapping of some phones that would have involved perhaps a handful of people, yet you want me to believe that they have managed to keep quiet a conspiracy that involved large numbers of people and led to the deaths of thousands of people?

Yeah right.
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