Developmental Milestone...

[3o3]

Juho: Nova isn't that old for "_all_" the truth. I will tell her everything she wants to know when she grows older but there are some things that I will keep for myself! Ye olde Santa is alive according to me (and Nova) and there is a man in the moon. Good "lies" so to speak.

Alex: How did ya succeed in keepin' the yeller quiet then? I still swear alot infront of Nova whenever I get upset or whatever but I usually use words like "Damn", "Crap", "Piss", "Shit".. The kindest of them all swearwords around. I wouldn't mind if Nova said; "SHIT!!" when she got upset but I'd probably be abit angry if she came and said; "Damn whore" when she's 3.

I got my swearing habbits from 2 older brothers I think - and hanging out with the older kids than me.. I watched loads of horror/action-movies as a youngster and had my private stash of porno at a pretty young age aswell (Ausa was pretty chocked when she heard when I got my first pornomagazine). Great stuff indeed but then again, I am the one having severe anxienty nowadays so.. Hoho

[Juho L]

Originally Posted by 3o3

Ye olde Santa is alive according to me (and Nova) and there is a man in the moon. Good "lies" so to speak.

Classic Santa lie is understandable, but what the heck is a man in the moon lie?

but I'd probably be abit angry if she came and said; "Damn whore" when she's 3.

Angry for her because she said something she thought was ok and was not actually aware what it meant?

[AlexHall74]

Sebastian, I guess fear of embarassment is what tamed my wife and my use of profanity in out house. Also, I am a big believer that sometimes we (humans) do things out of habit very easily. Good habits seem harder to form and easier to break; bad habits form easily and usually take awhile to break. I want my kids to know what curse words are and what they mean by the time they are five or six like my eldest, Anja; I want them to have a natural habit of speaking in a polite manner, which they do. If they choose to say "shit!" or "damn it!" when they get angry and they do it at home, I will not chastise them as they did it at home, no harm no foul; if they do it at the grocery store I'll have a little talk with them.

The grocery store is always a potential place of embarassment with your kids, no matter how polite they are. Kids are honest, BRUTALLY HONEST. Anja asked me when ashe was two: "Daddy, why are we in the aisle where all the wine is again?" <Ooops!> Once, she also told me (very loudly) that a woman right next to us was fat and that she probably ate too much. Oww! From the mouths of babes...

So, everybody watch their motherfuckin' language, OK? No more goddman cursing, alright? Shit!

[3o3]

Originally Posted by Juho L

Classic Santa lie is understandable, but what the heck is a man in the moon lie?

We watched an documentary about the moon since Nova loves the moon and wants by a homebuilt spacerocket travel there someday. It was about the first man on the moon and Nova was all over the place that it was humans on the moon and she said that she really wanted to travel there and eat cookies and drink tea with the man on the moon.

Later we watched some cartoon that was about the moon aswell and the moon was a gaint humanface and Nova started once again saying that we needed to go the moon and have cookies and tea with the man on the moon. And she has already packed her backpack with extra clothes, some toys as the man in the moon loves to play, plates, forks, spoons, cups and everything else that is needed for our small picnic on the moon.

Originally Posted by Alex

BRUTALLY HONEST

Aye! They sure are honest but isn't all bad! Sure, Nova has done a few things that made both me and Ausa turn lobster-redish. We were in the store and a man with a large beard passed us by and Nova started to scream so everyone in the shop heard her; "SANTA CLAUS!!! NOVA HAS BEEN NICE I WANT PRESENTS!!!" and another time when we were in same store she saw a dark lady that looked that she was from India and Nova watched her for like 5 minutes before she started to laugh and screamed; "I WANNA PET THE MONKEY" all while making monkey-sounds "Oh", "Ah", "Uha-ahahaha" and jumping around in the store.. That was really akward for us.

[Old Vantaa Man]

I swear around the kids when it's necessary.

"Whaa? You said you could fucking shift these fucking E's at school. Right. mini skirt on young lady and don't come back without a fucking Grand."

But seriously. Swear. They should get it from the horse's mouth.

[AlexHall74]

Indeed OVM, tis' best to have them swear as their forefathers.

[Onkel Dunkel]

My biggest problem will proberbly be dealing with other parrents when Thor teaches their kids all the "nasty" words since i don´t belive in "bad language". I´m not going to change my language when Thor is around just because some poeple think it "sounds bad". Why does it sound bad? Because someone (not me) decided that some words are good and some are bad. As long as he doesn´t talk racist or homofobic or anything hate-ish like that he can say fuck, shit, ass, etc. as much as he likes. I feel sick when amarican tv programs put "beeeps" in place of "fuck" and "shit" when everyone know they say it. You can´t say fuck but it´s ok that we teach you that Darwin was wrong and god is right and killing people ind the name of democracy is great. Fuck that... I talk to Thor the way i have always talked and i don´t give a shit about what other people think about that. If they can´t find any bigger problems than language i can´t really take them seriuos...
Anyway, in the kindergarden they actually say the danish word for "shit" or "crap" (lort) instead of "poo": "who made crap and needs to be changed?"

[Old Vantaa Man]

Poo is a horrible word. Poo comes from "Poooo.. That stinks!"
Terrible. There's nothing to be ashamed of. My kids say "I'm taking a shit."

It's a fucking "shit" or a "piss" in my house. Kids can say it nicely, too.

[Juho L]

George Carlin about raising children.

Geroge Carlin is my souldmate! Genious man!