Moog Little Phatty, who needs a girlfriend?

[annikk.exe]

This is one of the headache I have with the virus - beautiful for soft sounds, but it takes quite a bit of effort to get a good raw impact out of it, whereas some synths just ooze it.

I know what you mean here. I've been playing with the distortion on the virus and I just don't like it at all. It doesn't sound warm, or musical, or useable for anything apart from glitch, random fill noises and fx.. at least, not without some serious Configuring. The synth overall so far is amazing, I absolutely love the filters and the other onboard effects are good, but my inability to make it produce a badass sounding distortion-based bass or screaming leads is a tad worrying. The quality of the sound is superb, it's just that damn distortion...

I'm thinking I might buy a seperate distortion unit, I've had my eyes on this:




It's proper valve-based analog and the reviews for it are very positive. People talk about using it to "inject analog warmth", and running their whole mixes through it on a low gain setting (i guess it can also be set to scream like a banshee). Plus, it looks so awesome... =)
Trying to decide at the moment whether to get it, or some multiFX unit first. The virus onboard effects really aren't bad at all...


-Annikk

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Annikk - FUNKING hell that looks BADASS

Khazul - in terms of punch and snap....I dont think its envelopes that are strictly responsible for that. It comes down to the VCA's ability to track the envelope.....its the VCA's response times in relation to the envelope curve its trying to track that give you the punch. All analog works best...

You can have technically slower envelopes on an analog synth....but it still produces more punch than its digital counterpart.

DS

[LivePsy]

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS

its. the VCA's response times in relation to the envelope curve its trying to track that give you the punch. All analog works best...
DS

What? This is more myth than fact. Have a look at waveforms recorded in a sampler or DAW. Digital is not tracking an envelope like analog, its a perfect mathematical calculation of the amplitude as far as the resolution the programmers have given it (steppy envelopes are the result of not giving the envelope curves enough attention).

You may like analog's imperfections, but its not better nor is it intentional.

[MusicForAirheads]

Oh dear, looks like I've sparked yet another bizarre analog theories vs digital theories debate....

I never meant to compare the Virus with the LP, let me make that perfectly clear, They're COMPLETELY different instruments....

I'm pretty sure the difference we hear in various instruments is in their quality of build and design. It's crazy to say analog automatically sounds better. I once built an analog synth that proves my point (awful...)

There is a lot of evidence that the imperfections and random qualities of some good analog synths add to the quality of their sound. If that appeals to you....

And let's make the distinction again, It's what we HEAR that is important, regardless of if it's analog, digital, or built out of balsa wood and a nugget of plutonium. If you like it and can make a good sound, hooray!

The Little Phatty kicks ass. The Virus kicks ass. Lots of stuff kicks ass. You kick ass, A-fucken-men.

[LivePsy]

Originally Posted by MusicForAirheads

Oh dear, looks like I've sparked yet another bizarre analog theories vs digital theories debate....

Mate, the only thing which sparked a debate is pure ENVY.

I'm not likely to afford an analog Moog of any kind. But just suppose I did, you couldn't get the smile off my face.

B

[TheHobbit]

Do some research into the culture vulture, I looked at it recently and not convince...its popularity can be misleading. You may also want to check out some TLAudio valve compressors or the like...very smooth yet can still make the most of the viruses and make it grungy

Just an opionion which is what kit buying is all about !

[fierlion]

Originally Posted by annikk.exe

I know what you mean here. I've been playing with the distortion on the virus and I just don't like it at all. It doesn't sound warm, or musical, or useable for anything apart from glitch, random fill noises and fx.. at least, not without some serious Configuring. The synth overall so far is amazing, I absolutely love the filters and the other onboard effects are good, but my inability to make it produce a badass sounding distortion-based bass or screaming leads is a tad worrying. The quality of the sound is superb, it's just that damn distortion


-Annikk

I was sold on the virus in part because of its distortion. I love my LP's overload, but I also love my sweet little zippery RADIAS' drive. Digital distortion has just as much character as analog, just different charachter. I like the Virus because it walks a fine line between digital sound and analog sound, including the sound of its distortions and 'analog' settings.