Dub step and non-sequentialism vs. the writer

[feedingear]

Your definition of music (whether for arguments sake or not) is very, very shallow. A composition does not require a distinct melody to be a compostion.

Its funny that you say, any organised collection of samples or sound effects, as the broadest definition of music is simply 'organised sound.'

Sheet music is one of the worst and inaccurate methods of communicating and preserving music, due to factors like the insane level of difficulty and restrictions in notating a physical linear score (relaying the composers emotional intentions, notating extended techniques effectively, writing with scales that arent built on 8 notes etc).

Many people have attempted to overcome a lot of the restrictions inherent in scoring (see: graphic scores of the avant garde, non linear scoring http://andrewhearst.com/blog/2006/02...r_george_crumb) etc, but recorded audio remains the best method of preserving and communicating a composition.

I don't see why it keeps coming back to Skrillex (guy must be losing a lot of sleep over this thread), but eh. Here's a few examples of harmony, melody, counterpoint in his music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e_3Cg9GZFU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVmu6yttiw

Eg - bangarangs aroung Gm, with clearly defined melodic parts (G Bb, C Eb in main section). Just because a sound has unusual harmonics in it, doesnt mean there isnt an underlying melody thats discernable.

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by feedingear

Your definition of music (whether for arguments sake or not) is very, very shallow.

And as I have mine, you have your opinions, some which I find to be shallow as well, but I guess it's great that we all have ours. The very last sentence in my prior post said that my own definition was much more open than what I was describing, yet you still decided something yet undefined was too narrow for you -- without ever knowing fully what my definition of music is.

And regardless, my music creation goals and opinions are mine and mine alone. I'm not out to convince anyone they should be more like me, the world doesn't need any cheap imitations

Skrillex comes up in dub step discussions because he's considered one of the poster boys (if not THE poster boy) of the modern incarnation of the genre. As I said, if he has some tracks where someone could sit down at a piano and start playing the basics of the tune and others would be able to identify it, then those tracks would meet one of my own musical goals. I don't hear that in any of his more popular tracks and the links you posted would not display for me. I'm not trying to tell anyone they should adopt my view, and anyone would need to be trying hard not to have seen that in my prior message -- more less pining for a debate on the subject which I'm not really interested in as much as simple expression of viewpoint.