USB audio Virus Ti - The Unofficial Access Virus & Virus TI Forum

Mark28 · #1 09.02.2006, 09:39 AM

Does the USB audio of the TI only support 16 bit depth? ( 44hz/48hz at 16 bit that is )

MonkeyMan · #2 09.02.2006, 11:23 AM

http://www.sunesha.nu/virusforum/vie...ghlight=#50145

Mark28 · #3 10.02.2006, 10:27 AM

When can we expect USB support for higher bit resolutions? 8O

I mean mixing sounds at 24 bit is better and remains better after the final conversion to 16 bit. Those 8 extra bits can really help control that noise floor and get accurate level adjustments.

MonkeyMan · #4 10.02.2006, 04:42 PM

Don't hold your breath pal... probably on the TIT (TI two that is)

Ditch the USB/Audio at 16bit and use the 24bit 192Khz D/A converted stereo outs, you won't look back.

Timo · #5 10.02.2006, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark28

Why don't they let the communication between Virus Remote and the hardware Virus TI synth takes place via a USB 2.0 instead of USB 1.1 connection. USB 2.0 operates at 480Mbps, about 40X times faster than USB 1.1.

Apparently the implementation of USB v1 is a lot simpler, and the tools for that standard are more widely available/accessible to developers.

USB v2 resources and documentation are supposedly more thinner on the ground and more complex to implement, which is why you tend to see more Firewire soundcards than USB 2. USB v2 is starting to pick up now it's becoming more understood and that better pre-composited drivers are written and becoming more accessible.

Which begs the question why they didn't choose Firewire.

... We can can only guess they reserved it for TI v2.

Mark28 · #6 11.02.2006, 12:00 AM

Why don't they let the communication between Virus Remote and the hardware Virus TI synth take place via USB 2.0 connection instead of the USB 1.1 connection ( USB 2.0 operates at 480Mbps, about 40X times faster than USB 1.1 ). 24bit at 96khz only takes up about 4.39 Mbps

Timo · #7 11.02.2006, 12:01 AM

umm, did u just delete and re-post your post? cus i posted my post after you posted your last USB v2 one, lol

[edit]ahh, u must have, cus i quoted u in my post

nutekk · #8 11.02.2006, 05:37 AM

while the audio that streams over the usb connection is 16 bit
you can still have your project setup in your host to a different bit depth..i guess the virus control software converts on the fly?

you wont get any added resolution on your TI parts...but at least the rest of the project(vsti,effects,mixing...) can be @ a higher rate.

if you use the ti as your sound card as well are you limited to 16bit 44/48?

the analog outs are 24/192....however the synth engine isn't running at that resolution....therefor it doesn't matter what the d/a is spec @. the d/a is locked to the synth engine...which is running @ 20bit???

dr. orange · #9 11.02.2006, 07:46 AM

because USB1 is much cheaper than USB2 and Firewire... I wonder if it was still cheaper to access in the end because it has caused tons of problems and so tons of development costs

Tiphares · #10 11.02.2006, 10:32 AM

Hello!
I can't understand why everybody is talking about TI 2, TI V2 or TI Mk2...
How do you all know there will be such a synth in the near future? I didn't ever read anything about it. BTW, I dont believe that Access will work on a new Synth and just say to all of us who bought a normal TI: "Sorry, but you've just bought a beta version! You helped us developing the TI 2!" We have to remember that the TI is just a few months on the market and access have to improve the system drastically.
And if we look at the Virus A/B/C, there was never such a Mk2 Version, exept of the Virus Classic, wich isch a cheaper but not less powerful virus b.
Please post any information about TI V2, if there are any. Otherwise, i suppose all the talking is just a big rumour...
Cheers, Thiphares