Virus TI Reverbs & Delays???

[EnjoyRC]

Today I was working on the TI and it crossed my mind... Even though they're quite simple, the REVERBs and DELAYs are great in the Virus TI. Very clear. I know we have the ability to cancel all delays and reverbs for the studio environment... but... Ya think they're as good as high quality studio grade FX?

[Khazul]

The reverb is very good for for built-in synth fx, but I wouldnt compare them to a decent specialist outboard unit (lexicon for eg).

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

The onboard effects on the virus are the best of any synth ever made

The Lexicon MPX1 puts out more refined reverbs and delays.....however the Virus's are very good.....and can be considered pretty amazing considering they are 'onboard'

Ive yet to find any chorus, feedback, phaser effects which sound as sweet as the virus'. I really rate these.....

Overall, the Virus effects engine is easy to use and very sweet/liquid sounding

DS

[jonbon]

a thought, i'd rather have one or two prestine reverbs than 16 good ones, a switch for this would be ace dreaming i know..

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Really high end reverbs are best for vocal work and intricate drum parts. I think the fidelity gets 'wasted' on synth parts.....

Agree or disagree?

DS

[MonkeyMan]

Jonbon - having just one or two reverbs in your synth... that reminds me of what life was like before the TI!

Manufacturers like Lexicon or TC charge big bucks for decent hardware reverb/FX units. To put FX of similar quality inside the TI would of priced it well out of most current users budget.

IMO the multi-FX inside the TI are the best I have used inside a standalone synth. One or two of the Rhodes piano patches have a warm vintage 1970's sound to them and are fantastic - mostly down to well programmed FX. But then on the other hand the TI can also sound as bright and clear as any synth put out in the 80's - if that's what you want. And then of course you have all of the latest bit reduction and distortion FX of the 00?s.

If only Roland had put a couple of Boss SE70's inside the JV2080 or JD990...

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Originally Posted by MonkeyMan

The TI can also sound as bright and clear as any synth put out in the 80's - if that's what you want

How do you achieve that?

DS

[Khazul]

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS

Really high end reverbs are best for vocal work and intricate drum parts. I think the fidelity gets 'wasted' on synth parts.....

Agree or disagree?

DS

Depends what you are doing - for eg quite dense reverbs seem to be used on the infamous Faithless sounds - I cna get close with the TI, but it probabl demands something a little denser.

I am sure however I could frig up some multi mode patching hack to up the desiity alot, for eg:

Miulti mode, Part 1 - synth patch, no reverb on it, route to output 2, patch output 2 back to inputs, then hand half a dozen static input reverb only parts (2-7 or whatever) - that should come out nice and dense - set each to slighly different characters. Hang a decent compressor off output 1 and you should be sorted

Reminds me - TI FX dept needs a useful compressor/limiter - marc/tk?

[Khazul]

Originally Posted by jonbon

a thought, i'd rather have one or two prestine reverbs than 16 good ones, a switch for this would be ace dreaming i know..

See above ^^^ - break free of being software minded - think hardware patching madness and anything is possible

[Khazul]

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS

How do you achieve that?

DS

You can might the I brighter with careful use of EQ and reso in some patches, but the TI is still a TI. Cranking the high EQ is something you can get away with in some mixes, but the end result can just get harsh rather than bright (if you can tell the difference). Sometimes works sometimes doesnt.

The best way to get it sounding properly brighter is using a decent external exiter/enhancer - but thats more of a high sheen than real brightness - again its something that can be work in a mix rather than solo.