Transmitting Virus arppegiator over MIDI - The Unofficial Access Virus & Virus TI Forum

Timo · #1 16.03.2006, 12:53 PM

Hi, I'm wanting to transmit the Virus's arpeggiator patterns to a second sound module over midi.

Thing is, it transmits the arp messages, but also sends a single sustained note-on held for the duration too, so the resultant sound output from the sound module sounds really cluttered.

Changing patches on the second sound module while holding down the arppegiated Virus notes returns the arp pattern back to normal.... Until I change key on the Virus arp.

Anyone know what's happening, and how to cure it please?

(I'm using the Indigo's keyboard to play/trigger the Virus's arpeggiator, and have linked it to the second sound module via Midi.)

Thanks

Khazul · #2 16.03.2006, 01:59 PM

Switch off 'soft thru' in config?

Timo · #3 16.03.2006, 02:49 PM

Thanks. No change, though. =/

It's like the Virus is not de-activating the non-arpeggiated notes when playing the arpeggiator, so you have two layers of notes being sent at the same time: 1) the whole chord you're pressing, and 2) the arpeggiated notes of the chord running over the top.

The only workaround is by activating arpegiator "Hold" and releasing the keys on the Indigo as soon as I've played them, but it isn't fluid when changing chords as you get a double note-on as the two layers clash.

Khazul · #4 16.03.2006, 02:58 PM

Bug then I think, mail to Access Support?

Onkel Dunkel · #5 16.03.2006, 07:34 PM

Is it possible that you are transmitting both the keyboards MIDI out and the appegiated notes? Is there a "keyboard transmits MIDI" on/off setting? If yes, turn it off. You could also make a track in your sequenser with the "long notes" (the keys you press to make it appegiate) and play it back to the Virus while recording the Virus on another track. Another thing is that you must make sure that your sequenser doesn?t play back the appegiated notes to your virus or it will appegiate the appegiated notes causing a loop (which will sound wierd, i?ve tried it myself). Turn off MIDI out on the channel you are recording on...

Timo · #6 17.03.2006, 03:48 PM

Thanks, guys. Tried everything, even had the Virus and Trinity linked via just one midi cable, Virus > Trinity, so there was no loop.

Anyhow, here was the (very speedy!) response from Access, which explains things more:-

"Thank you for your mail. In this case I'd recommend to use the multimode and to use one PART to trigger the internal notes of the Indigo 1 and a 2nd PART with the particular Arpeggiator patch, that then transmits the Midi notes of the arpeggiator.

"The Virus allows you to set whether a PART transmits Midi or if a PART doesn't. In Single Mode the Virus definitely will send out both the Arp and the notes triggering the ARP, if it also works as a masterkeyboard."

Cheers,

Timo

Khazul · #7 17.03.2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Timo

From Access: In Single Mode the Virus definitely will send out both the Arp and the notes triggering the ARP, if it also works as a masterkeyboard.

Hmmm - I would classify that as a bug/broken behaviour, whether by design or not

Normally when I swithc a synth to send arp - it will normally stop sending the notes played/received and just send the arp notes.

Sending both is definately not useful

Timo · #8 17.03.2006, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khazul

Hmmm - I would classify that as a bug/broken behaviour, whether by design or not

Normally when I swithc a synth to send arp - it will normally stop sending the notes played/received and just send the arp notes.

Sending both is definately not useful

I agree with that. My MC505 transmits just the arp patterns too, when activated. It's really useful.

Is this buggy midi arp transmission issue the same for the C and TI series, too?

Khazul · #9 17.03.2006, 07:02 PM

Just spent a few minutes re-checking every midi noise generating contraption I have that has some arp type function in it - not one of them (other than the TI) exhibits this behaviour.

Time to report it as a bug

BTW - who was the reply from - tk?

Timo · #10 17.03.2006, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khazul

Just spent a few minutes re-checking every midi noise generating contraption I have that has some arp type function in it - not one of them (other than the TI) exhibits this behaviour.

Time to report it as a bug

BTW - who was the reply from - tk?

JH, without wishing to implicate anyone directly.

To be honest I don't really know how multi-mode works, lol. With it being an Indigo v1 I sometimes use all the voices so never really used it outside of single mode, to discourage possible note-stealing and stuff. ...All those new acronyms and new navigation to learn, too.

Is the 'bug' apparent in your TI, too?