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Old 30.04.2009, 08:08 PM
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Default DnB/Neurofunk bassline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRw7_1C9U2g (bass kicks in at 1:40)

Do you think I could achieve this kind of bass/mid lines with a Virus C? If so, does anyone would share some tips? I can't get quite the tone I want and I'm not sure if the problem is the way I set my OSCs shape/pw or the Filter section.

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Old 02.05.2009, 08:57 AM
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The kind of bass you're talking about is called a Reece (or Reese I always forget which is right). The main trick is to resample though to be honest. You'll never get sounds like that straight out of a synth.

Essentially this is what you do:

1)Detuned saw/square waves
2)Distortion
3)Notch filter/EQ/Phaser/Flanger/Chorus/Whatever you want really (experiment)
4)Bounce to audio
5)Load up the audio file in a softsampler like Kontakt and go back to step 2 until you're happy with your sound.
6)Toss on some insane filter modulation

Another good trick is to split your sound in to multiple freq bands once you bounce it to audio the first time. So say, load it up in kontakt 3 times, lowpass one around 150 Hz, highpass the next at 150Hz and lowpass it at 2500Hz, then Highpass the last one at 2500Hz so you have a separate instance for the lows mids and highs. Keep the lows fairly clean, throw in some compression, give the mids lots of distortion and notching and shit, give the highs even more distortion and a bunch of phasing and maybe even some delay and reverb.

The main trick really is bouncing down and layering sounds though, that's how all the big names like Spor and Noisia and Teebee and them do it.
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Look up some of the bigger name dnb artists on youtube - lots of interviews/samples of them showing how they use soft synths like Massive to get certain sounds, Sub Focus have a few up that are worth a watch.

But yeah.. resamplings pretty much the go. Also give NI Massive a try.. the alternating LFO types and patterns is VERY dnb friendly, sculpt your own shapes to make those twisted sounds.
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Old 02.05.2009, 09:14 AM
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Here's a clip from a tune I'm working on right now actually using some of the stuff I mentioned above.

http://www.creattivox.com/glassnote1.mp3

Another trick I forgot to mention is putting reverb with the wet level turned up pretty high and the reverb time REALLY low with 0 pre-delay on the highs. It really helps smooth stuff out, can give you some interesting sounds.
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Sounds already great Sonis...

Btw. tx for all the explanation...never knew they do this in the way you told us...i am still using the old style of bass (direct from the hardware with some effects).
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Wow! Your stuff sounds great Sonis! Thank you veeeerrryyyy much for the tips, Sonis

*running back to the DAW*
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Any time if I think of anything else I'll post it up. It's a really fun process though if you enjoy sound design so definitely experiment a bit and you can get some wicked stuff.

And thanks for the kind words
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