Expected TI shipping

[marc]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

ben's not but i am. you can save your prayers for something else. we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

[Seeyou]

ben's not but i am. you can save your prayers for something else. we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

So, Marc, you're working for Access... can you help me out a bit? I got a powercore firewire because of the virus plugin and spent a lot of money for the powercore and the virus. But the virus isn't working. It works properly for about 3 minutes and then it gets out of sync, losing every arpeggio, delay and making pitchbend-like artifacs. And, other than that, many pots are getting kinda resetted after a while. I've already complained with an e-mail at tc and didn't get any answer. But I was wondering why is Access letting this happen? I searched the powercore forums and found out that EVERYONE has the same problems as I do. But isn't there Access' reputation on the line? What about customer care? It's a fine thing making money by selling products that don't work. Because I can't work with the virus for longer than 3 minutes and then I have to restart cubase. If I had chosen this kind of way of working, I would't be a composer, I would be a beta-tester.
Do you, in any way, know if there is going to be an update? Or maybe a Virus|Powercore TI upgrade? or find me one single excuse why I bought the Powercore other than a non-working, crappy plugin that promises loads of things and can't deliver even a stable playback? because I can't find one.

Sorry I might sound a bit rude or agressive, I just don't earn a lot of money and when I deside to buy something, it takes me 9-10 months of moneysaving. I can't afford throwing money out of the window.
Please answer my question.... Please.
Alexander Ragousis

[marc]

ben's not but i am. you can save your prayers for something else. we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

So, Marc, you're working for Access... can you help me out a bit?

[...]

Sorry I might sound a bit rude or agressive, I just don't earn a lot of money and when I deside to buy something, it takes me 9-10 months of moneysaving. I can't afford throwing money out of the window.
Please answer my question.... Please.
Alexander Ragousis

hi alexander,

we are working most of the issues above. you have a couple of problems though which i haven't heart of before. mostly the parameter reset issues.

send a mail to support@access-music.de and we will try to help you with the problems that might be related to your system and not to virus powercore bugs.

best, marc

[Seeyou]

ben's not but i am. you can save your prayers for something else. we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

So, Marc, you're working for Access... can you help me out a bit?

[...]

Sorry I might sound a bit rude or agressive, I just don't earn a lot of money and when I deside to buy something, it takes me 9-10 months of moneysaving. I can't afford throwing money out of the window.
Please answer my question.... Please.
Alexander Ragousis

hi alexander,

we are working most of the issues above. you have a couple of problems though which i haven't heart of before. mostly the parameter reset issues.

send a mail to support@access-music.de and we will try to help you with the problems that might be related to your system and not to virus powercore bugs.

best, marc

Marc, thank you.

[Nord]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

ben's not but i am. you can save your prayers for something else. we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc
You dont have to be so rude.
I never said you're in financial difficulties, at least not at this point.

Well I all ready bought other synths for my TI money.
I'm just curious when you'll release the synth



:wink:

[MarcTale]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

ben's not but i am. you can save your prayers for something else. we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

Not yet, but if you go on handling customers like you do at the moment you soon will be!
And it seems you don?t need to answer E-Mails at the moment and you don?t give a s*** about us customers.
Don?t you see that people get angry at the moment?
One after another is buying other hardware instead your TI!
It seems that you think you?re unplacable with your gear!

What is the problem giving out some information?
Maybe if it weeks or months we have to wait?

So we could at least save money for later (if its months) and buy other gear now.
I already paid for my TI and could?ve used the money for other gear when I have to wait very long for the TI.

It is no fun anymore!

I know I?m a bit harsh but your information policy is absolutely not customer friendly.
I think we deserve at least some answers while we?re waiting for more than6 months now and who surely have to wait for at least 4 months longer.

But I?m sure we don?t get useful information until it?s out and that?s totally dissapointing!
I?m sure I don?t evenget a useful answer to this post or my E-Mail I sent to you today.

Sorry for being harsh but that?s how I feel at the moment.

Regards

MarcTale

[marc]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

ben's not but i am. you can save your prayers for something else. we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc
You dont have to be so rude.
I never said you're in financial difficulties, at least not at this point.

Well I all ready bought other synths for my TI money.
I'm just curious when you'll release the synth



:wink:

nord, before it'll get confusing here, my reply refers to the original statement:

"every month they can not sell the Ti, they're without cashflow. but cost are high because of development and introduction of the Ti. i hope i'm wrong with what i think will happen to access. pray."

and if i came across in a rude way, apologies, it wasn't my intention. the way quoting works here can be a little bit confusing.

marc

[i3]

so what's the thing we cannot work out with 10.4?

marc


I heard there was some snickering about macintosh in corperate HQs bieng mocked as a pc now since moving from a ibm based cpu to a intel. some how a apple mysteriously got logded in the motherboard of all the software engineers halting further OS programming. :wink:

[alione]

well i think as a Virus C owner that your company is not doing well their Job; tha Information is Very important in Bussines, iam sure that the long release of tI series is given problems ,but instead of being with your customers and make "something really special (advertising, special demos, not just MP3, letters or prhotos anyware or Something just Silence as best response..................as an example:

One easy question :
when will be the final Release?

What happen with people who give their money at the Pro music shops?
lots of people sold their Virus B or C to take the TI Series and many are reselling again last models.......any Shop at Spain is delivering Any Virus...............No Response..........................Why??

[ledge]

I love this thread! :D

me too, it just gets funnier and funnier, especially when someone new comes along to demand info on the release date from marc.

I love not being able to afford a ti :) Of course that will change the day it is released :(

[technomonster]

marc wrote

so what's the thing we cannot work out with 10.4?



well,
firstly it is a really great to have someone from access on this site.

what i meant was . it seems to me, a total computer layman who is not an apple mac user, but a PC pentium 4 user, that the updates to the OSX'S seem to be be quite substantial, and various things cant quite catch up, that quickly.

apple is endevouring to come up with a mega operating system, and from what i see really being visionary all the time.
. i have logic and will eventually change to apple :D , but i feel that i should just wait a little longer for all the things to be worked out and then i will make the change. (also very much a financial decision)
i asked access whether the software editor for TI would work for logic 5.5 and they said it would.
logic 5.5. is just fantastic and it was the cost that stopped me from changing in the first place after i had already purchaced a new PC and logic 5.5 just before the takeover.

[dries]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

ben's not but i am. you can save your prayers for something else. we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

that's good news.

in bad times it's nice to have a rich grandma ;-)

[marc]

marc wrote

so what's the thing we cannot work out with 10.4?



well,
firstly it is a really great to have someone from access on this site.

what i meant was . it seems to me, a total computer layman who is not an apple mac user, but a PC pentium 4 user, that the updates to the OSX'S seem to be be quite substantial, and various things cant quite catch up, that quickly.

apple is endevouring to come up with a mega operating system, and from what i see really being visionary all the time.
. i have logic and will eventually change to apple :D , but i feel that i should just wait a little longer for all the things to be worked out and then i will make the change. (also very much a financial decision)
i asked access whether the software editor for TI would work for logic 5.5 and they said it would.
logic 5.5. is just fantastic and it was the cost that stopped me from changing in the first place after i had already purchaced a new PC and logic 5.5 just before the takeover.

apple's intel cpu based macs will take a while and 10.4 was released about 6 weeks ago (?). i think you mixed the two things up. 104. is an update which works with the existing powermacs, not the future ones.

best, marc

[BenLime]

I broke down yesterday... Canceled my preorder and bought a C for 1100 yesterday. No sleep this weekend! :)

[blay]

I broke down yesterday... Canceled my preorder and bought a C for 1100 yesterday. No sleep this weekend! :)

enjoy mate. probably a smart move... :wink:

cheers

blay

[kuniklo]

Sounds like the upcoming U-He Zebra 2 is going to do wavetables too. Hmm...

[blay]

Sounds like the upcoming U-He Zebra 2 is going to do wavetables too. Hmm...

you wouldnt be involved with the zebra 2 production team would you kuniklo? (I hope this isnt spam...)

have you used the z3ta?

cheers

blay

[kuniklo]

Sounds like the upcoming U-He Zebra 2 is going to do wavetables too. Hmm...

you wouldnt be involved with the zebra 2 production team would you kuniklo? (I hope this isnt spam...)

have you used the z3ta?


:)

No, just a fan of U-He's stuff. I like z3ta quite a bit too.

[Merlot]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

How can you be when you charge $2500 for a DSP chip and a keyboard? :roll:

[blay]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

How can you be when you charge $2500 for a DSP chip and a keyboard? :roll:

8O

ouch...

cheers

blay

[blay]

No, just a fan of U-He's stuff. I like z3ta quite a bit too.

Cool. I'm definately keen to check out zebra 2 (now you mention it :wink:)

cheers

blay

[Timo]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

How can you be when you charge $2500 for a DSP chip and a keyboard? :roll:

It's what's on the chip(s) that count.

.... Number of man-hours in researching scientific sound-design and coding it in assembly language. That takes a lot of money.

[Merlot]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

How can you be when you charge $2500 for a DSP chip and a keyboard? :roll:

It's what's on the chip(s) that count.

.... Number of man-hours in researching scientific sound-design and coding it in assembly language. That takes a lot of money.

If that was the case then independent developers of vsts/AU's would charge an arm and a leg too. I would think just as much R&D goes into the bigger name VSTi's. The going price for a decent vst is about 200-300 dollars. So lets do the math, $2500 - $300 = $2200. I stand corrected then.

$2200 for a DSP chip and keyboard. :wink:

[Gopal]

Ben C
do you work for Access? Have connections etc etc..
Doesnt you have any info that you can share with us :P

we are not in financial difficulties.

best, marc

How can you be when you charge $2500 for a DSP chip and a keyboard? :roll:

It's what's on the chip(s) that count.

.... Number of man-hours in researching scientific sound-design and coding it in assembly language. That takes a lot of money.

Its the Uber Geek's time and the Uber Geek's Uber salaries you are paying for :lol: 8)

[Panopticon]

Overhead costs when manufacturing a product are very expensive, and the smaller the production run, the more it'll cost the consumer in the end. You have to consider tooling, assembly, painting/silk screening, labor, lighting, heat, and rent on the buildings in which to do these things; and this is still granting that the keybed, knobs, and switches are subcontracted. And you still haven't factored in a team of 3 or 4 R&D guys to develop the thing for two years, nor writing/print/press of the manual, nor the box and shipping materials. You still need QC and end-user support after that. Access could probably drop the price up to 10% and still stay afloat, but they most likely don't produce enough Viri to drop the price more than that. Sure, there are VA's out there for less, but there's a reason the Virus is the industry leader, and if they dropped the price too much, they'd have to cut too many corners on the manufacture side of things. I personally would be really surprised if they shipped more than 200,000 units.

Microsoft actually LOSES money on every Xbox they sell, the caveat for them is that they make it back from the game manufacturers who have to pay licensing fees for every copy of a game they sell. It costs a lot more than one would think to deliver a quality tech product, I'm just happy Access delivers a good one.

[Merlot]

[quote="Panopticon"]Microsoft actually LOSES money on every Xbox they sellquote]

This is interesting! I dont doubt what you are saying, but would like to see that in writing.

I know the costs are high, I was just playing devils advocate of this whole thing. The thing is you dont come to a board like this and gloat about how you are not hurting for money and the ti will be done when it is done attitude. People are sweating and working their asses off to save money for their product and you sit here and throw it back in their face with a comment like that. Not very professional if you ask me! :cry:

[ben crosland]

I know the costs are high, I was just playing devils advocate of this whole thing.

Really? I just thought you were being plain rude.

The thing is you dont come to a board like this and gloat about how you are not hurting for money and the ti will be done when it is done attitude.

Marc's comment was in direct response to the increasingly tiresome speculation that "Access is going the way of Waldorf". This can hardly be classified as 'gloating'. :roll:

[CJ]

I really can't see how Marc's post was rude. I'm one of the "people who's sweating and working their asses off to save money for their product" (I paid for the TI in december), but I really can't see (even when using my wildest imagination) how Marc's post was rude.

Of course this wait is a PITA, and Im checking their site for new information every damn day, but this situation doesn't make me "stupid".

[jasedee]

This thread is staring to get nasty...... 8O

How about we be thankful that employees from Access actually visit this site and stop giving them a hard time.

Waiting for the Ti is not the end of the world, some people here really need to gain some perspective and stop whingeing about something that, in all reality, is not a big deal at all......Im sure it is a waste of time and energy, energy better spent making tunes, and embracing life with an open heart.

The Ti will come when the Ti comes......

:)

[Merlot]

[quote=Panopticon]Microsoft actually LOSES money on every Xbox they sellquote]

This is interesting! I dont doubt what you are saying, but would like to see that in writing.

I know the costs are high, I was just playing devils advocate of this whole thing. The thing is you dont come to a board like this and gloat about how you are not hurting for money and the ti will be done when it is done attitude. People are sweating and working their asses off to save money for their product and you sit here and throw it back in their face with a comment like that. Not very professional if you ask me! :cry:

My apologies for this post. I was not having a good day and I probably should have not come to this board to vent. :oops:

[Hollowcell]

Marc's comment was in direct response to the increasingly tiresome speculation that "Access is going the way of Waldorf". This can hardly be classified as 'gloating'. :roll:

Do you mean that Access will be putting in user wavetables just like Waldorf did? :D

Timo, we have a victory!!! Although I may have just misunderstood Ben's post. :wink:

[aster]

Well I just go the recent turnkey catalogue in the mail...and of course it includes the virus TI range, which got me thinking that all these major music stores for months now have been advertising something in their catalogues that is not in stock, with no confirmed shipping date......this is firstly misleading and unfortunate from the perspective of the TI buyers especially those who have given ????$$$$deposits......

Secondly, being a bean counter (by trade), based on experience (product lifecycle) typically such product launch delays add up to increase costs for a company, which are either passed on to the customer or reduce the bottom line for the company.

Access must be hurting, in that I can only assume that these "unexpected" additional R&D/testing costs will definately be eating into their original profit margin. As the pricing was announced quite early on and I cannot (at least from marketing/reputational point of view) expect them to up the retail price..........It will be interesting to see what actually happens..Access can only hope that they sell more volume to compensate for the decreased profit margin.......

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

^ if Access want to increase volume of Virus sales....I personally think they should just tell everyone: The Virus TI is going to be their *last* Virus series synth. Access should then go into a new direction with FM, wavetable and PD technologies.....be nice to see these technologies brought back into the 21st century with decent user interfaces. Believe it or not...but no one has done this yet....

Access are obvously trying to make the ultimate VA....and all credit to them they are getting there....

DS

[midislut]

Well I just go the recent turnkey catalogue in the mail...and of course it includes the virus TI range, which got me thinking that all these major music stores for months now have been advertising something in their catalogues that is not in stock, with no confirmed shipping date......this is firstly misleading and unfortunate from the perspective of the TI buyers especially those who have given ????$$$$deposits......

Secondly, being a bean counter (by trade), based on experience (product lifecycle) typically such product launch delays add up to increase costs for a company, which are either passed on to the customer or reduce the bottom line for the company.

Access must be hurting, in that I can only assume that these "unexpected" additional R&D/testing costs will definately be eating into their original profit margin. As the pricing was announced quite early on and I cannot (at least from marketing/reputational point of view) expect them to up the retail price..........It will be interesting to see what actually happens..Access can only hope that they sell more volume to compensate for the decreased profit margin.......

they will lift the price a bit

[blay]

they will lift the price a bit

I doubt it.
If anything they should be offering some sort of 'bonus' to preorder customers for their patience...
Raising the price is not an option for Access.

cheers

blay

[midislut]

yes they will bonus the preorder guys and recoupe the loss from the new buyers

they are running a business :wink:

[blay]

they are running a business :wink:

yep and thats why the rrp wont budge - unless Access has no integrity whatsoever.

cheers

blay

[Timo]

Yep, this could have probably been Access' last chance at a hardware synth, with all this huge wealth of computer synthesis booming at the mo giving it an even greater run for its money and maybe even surpassing it.

I would have preferred the TI to have done significantly more (in the way of sound warping (more hands-on controllers, ribbons, XY pads, etc.), sound-generation (yup, the wavetables are very welcome, but they're currently preset), and enhanced their current synthesis generation (like adding a fourth oscillator (or at the very least allowing the "sub" to become a fully functional oscillator in its own right, as opposed to being a very limited 'slave'); adding extra EGs (for pitch, or moreso modulating literally anything else that you fancy); more flexible LFOs (ie. so they're not each "fixed" to certain destinations); more emulated filters (like JP8, 303, OBXa, etc.); better saturation algorithms (as it currently suffocates the life out of most sounds, as opposed to warming them up like PSP Vintage Warmer or similar); maybe adding another filter type - a Peaking filter - to the current LP, HP, BP, BS line-up; allowing their third oscillator to have independent sync/ring-mod, FM controls to Oscillator 2; etc....

Physical modelling would be awesome, and I guess the Korg Oasys will cover this in time, including Wavetables (heavily updated from their wavestation), FM, and more.

I sincerely hope Korg release a synthesis 'workstation' successor to the Z1 at some point in the future, as I have absolutely no need for 70% of the Oasys (ie. the sequencer, the preset ROM samples, the weighted 76/88 piano keys, CD-RW, hard-drive, sample-RAM, Intel processor and custom-Linux OS, the 10.4 inch colour touchscreen, blah blah....)

PS > The Ti has been advertised in SOS in a dual-centrefold spread since around October/November last year, so pretty much all 100% of the customers must be a little disgruntled when they find it's still not been released yet.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Its not about integrity and what we believe is right. Its about what is financially viable to the company. If they have to raise the price....they will. Id recommend they dont. Maybe things in the UK are a little different...but...

Access have said that its their aim to introduce new virus flagship products at the same price as the one before...well lets just think about this..

The Virus KB was ?1229 when first introduced to the UK
The Virus KC was ?1329 then went to ?1349
The Virus TI lists at ?1499

DS

[blay]

Obviously there has been a slight increase in cost with each range, but the difference isnt huge.

Access have shown the TI several times now since it was first announced in nov 04, and each time they have advised the same recommended retail price.

I just cant see them changing the price structure now - but hey, stranger things have happened. :roll:

cheers

blay

[Hollowcell]

I love this thread! :D

[Timo]

Ahhhhhh..... *cracks open a virtual beer* :)

Anyone for a cookie?

[MADSTATION]

I just ordered a KS4 for the moment instead of getting a TI Polar.

Too bad for Access, I believe I was one of the last remaining very few excited customers.

They screwed up really bad.

[ten]

Im still excited, and I still have a pre-order :)

The wait is long and boring, I will stick tho :)

(oh im still making music and getting things done in the meantime, my life is not on hold :)

ten

[Househead]

Me too ten....I can see this going into 2006 :roll:

[DirkDiggler]

I suggest we find out where the TI's are stored, and rob the place!

Probably to find out there's no o.s. in them yet. :(

[dries]

"....to save money for their product" (I paid for the TI in december), but I really...."

you already paid for the "virtual" Ti in december 2004?

now i know why access in not in financial troubles ;-)

[blay]

now i know why access in not in financial troubles ;-)

That money would be in your supplier's bank acc - not with Access.

I suggest that your local supplier had a fine end of financial year party :wink:

[technomonster]

f--k, sh--. this is all f.......g getting ridiculous.

I HAVE JUST NOTICED A ROUND BALD PATCH JUST START AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD. :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x

my family said that it has started behind my back since i started going crazy about the TI not shipping.

has anyone else here suffered as much.

now i have to get lazer treatment, which will put th cost of the TI OVER 10000 DOLLARS AUD.

[blay]

I HAVE JUST NOTICED A ROUND BALD PATCH JUST START AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD. :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x

Shit! I just thought it was making my forehead grow 8O

cheers

blay

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Hmm yes. Its when you get into your mid 20's that you have to come to terms with the reality of whether you'll end up bald or not.

Im sure I will....my dad has and my hair is pretty thin and I think its slowly receeding. Oh well, such is life.....so much more to worry about in life than the hair on ones head.

DS

[Hollowcell]

And now to the latest update from my distributor!

These are all rumors however....

Creative Soundblaster offer to buy out Access. Thus creating the Virus-blaster TI. New OSC called the Blaster-mega-saw may happen. Also the Virus-blaster can be used as an all in one joypad and gamesound source! Imagine playing games by tweaking knobs and hitting keys - now that's total intergration!

The software developement section of Access sticks to their "get things happening" strategy. Basicly this strategy includes bending the truth to the marketing and upper management sections to make sure no one knows at all when the synth will be releaased.

Advertising and Marketing decide to keep spending on adds and promos. "After all, glossy pictures with catchy phrases are just as good as the real thing" one Access patch maker was quoted as saying. Next step is a countdown timer for the next advert.

Go Access!! Go Access!!

[dries]

And now to the latest update from my distributor!

These are all rumors however....

Creative Soundblaster offer to buy out Access. Thus creating the Virus-blaster TI. New OSC called the Blaster-mega-saw may happen. Also the Virus-blaster can be used as an all in one joypad and gamesound source! Imagine playing games by tweaking knobs and hitting keys - now that's total intergration!

The software developement section of Access sticks to their "get things happening" strategy. Basicly this strategy includes bending the truth to the marketing and upper management sections to make sure no one knows at all when the synth will be releaased.

Advertising and Marketing decide to keep spending on adds and promos. "After all, glossy pictures with catchy phrases are just as good as the real thing" one Access patch maker was quoted as saying. Next step is a countdown timer for the next advert.

Go Access!! Go Access!!

very creative!

i heard a rumor too, about microsoft helping access developing the Ti OS, code name: LongHornTiOS (LongAndHornyTotalydisIntegratedOperatingShit)

release date: somewhere at the beginning of the 21 century.

:lol:

[Timo]

release date: somewhere at the beginning of the 21 century.

Maybe you meant the 22nd C? ;)

Hollow, haha, does it have enormous latencies, and an added white noise effect on all channels?

[blay]

(LongAndHornyTotalydisIntegratedOperatingShit)

Access will be throwing t-shirts at your feet to use that one in the next press release dries :wink:

cheers

blay

[merlyn]

Press release? What's that? :roll:

[Napalm]

Is this guy serious :roll:

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread/threadid/113798

[midislut]

Is this guy serious :roll:

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread/threadid/113798


no

[Househead]

Is this guy serious :roll:

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread/threadid/113798

Lucky sod...he has a TI :roll:

What an idiot and a liar...

[Smag]

Bollocks, all of it.

he may mean the Virus TDI.

From the sounds of it those lot on that forum don't know their arse from their elbow.

[ben crosland]

he may mean the Virus TDI.

Turbo Diesel Injection?

[Hollowcell]

Is this guy serious :roll:

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread/threadid/113798

Lucky sod...he has a TI :roll:

What an idiot and a liar...

I love my TI. I bought one exactly on the first release (dec 2004) and I can't put it down!

The game pad expansion is really well intergrated and I love playing my favourite games on it.

The colour is really cool. Infact I could have bought other keyboard/gamepads, but something to match my curtains is what I was after mainly.

Yay Access TI! :D

[Midi_Glider]

Probably just some stupid fuck trying to make a bad name for the Virus (and himself).

also the first time I`ve ever heard of a standard unbalanced synth output burning up a sound card A/D... :lol:


Best,
midi.

[acid1]

quote:Originally posted by ruffridermg
dan there is viruses that affect the hardware conected 2 ur comp? thats messed up sry 2 hear that man, i sugest to not b downloading to many things


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:lol:

[Midi_Glider]

lol...

I only wonder what these guys on that "never gonna be a producer" forum are smoking...


Best,
midi.

[Napalm]

That idiot had me contacting various distributors thinking the TI had actually shipped :x

[blay]

he may mean the Virus TDI.

Turbo Diesel Injection?

Didnt you know that Volkswagen has gone bankrupt? Apparently Access snavelled up some of their employees to incorporate some of the new TDI technology into the TI line.

Apparently you can now run the TI on vegetable oil, but dont quote me on that...

cheers

blay

[Househead]

Apparently you can now run the TI on vegetable oil, but dont quote me on that...blay

We should advise that idiot on the other forum to do this to resolve his problem with his TI... :wink:

[blay]

We should advise that idiot on the other forum to do this to resolve his problem with his TI... :wink:

I couldnt help myself and had to post in that thread.

haha...

And you guys actually believe this guy has a TI already?

Unless you are a beat tester me thinks you be full of crapola.

Thanks for the entertainment though!

cheers

blay

There has not been a response to my post yet. I hate it when you throw shit at the fan and nothing happens. ;)

cheers

blay

[i3]

I couldnt help myself and had to post in that thread.


haha me too....

[Househead]

Classic guys... :lol:

[i3]

yay Virus PowerCore Version 1.1 is out! wait what am I waiting for a again? oh ya the VIRUS TI!!!

[Hollowcell]

yay Virus PowerCore Version 1.1 is out! wait what am I waiting for a again? oh ya the VIRUS TI!!!

Hehehe.

Well priorities are important.

Let's hope they add the Wavetables and the Hypersaw to the C series OS before they bring out the TI. They have plenty of time to play around with other Virus versions after all. :D

[blay]

Let's hope they add the Wavetables and the Hypersaw to the C series OS before they bring out the TI. They have plenty of time to play around with other Virus versions after all. :D

I was going to post this nearly word for word but didnt bother - its scary how predictable youre getting with old age HC :wink:

cheers

blay

[Hollowcell]

Well, saw the opportunity and went with it. What can I say? :D

[3o3]

What can I say?

That you are getting old? hoho

[Hollowcell]

What can I say?

That you are getting old? hoho

Or that I've gotten old! But saying that wouldn't be true. :D

[Simonb]

fuck me.. 3 weeks away from this board and still the same state. glad I brought a virus c on ebay for the time being.. geesh..
(sorry, didn't mean to rub it in.. )

[RustyCox]

After having been in the industry for over 30 years, I ,ve seen synths take over 2 years to be shipped from the original date and some synths never get shipped at all, just to put things in perspective.

[dries]

"After having been in the industry for over 30 years, I ,ve seen synths take over 2 years to be shipped from the original date and some synths never get shipped at all, just to put things in perspective."

yes, mr. access employee (ben or marc) - that's true.

and it's also true that most of these companies went bankrupt.

just to put things in perspective.

[jasedee]

"After having been in the industry for over 30 years, I ,ve seen synths take over 2 years to be shipped from the original date and some synths never get shipped at all, just to put things in perspective."

yes, mr. access employee (ben or marc) - that's true
Hmmm....thats quite an accusation? I dont know if Acces would stoop so low as to start posing as innocent forum users, trying to win over their customers...

Interesting thoery though.....

Seems the paranioa is starting to kick in :) Watch out 303!

[ben crosland]

I'd just like to point out that neither Marc nor myself are old enough to have been in the business for over 30 years. :lol:

[pseudonym]

hmm, isn't that a misinterpretation of both previous posts, one after another?

Ben doesn't look a day over 35, which would mean he'd been in the industry since he was 5 years old. I'm not sure how old Marc is, but I imagine a similar age to Ben...


or... is this the third post in a list of misinterpretations?

[pseudonym]

weird, you posted that a second before I did...

haven't we got anything better to do on a sunny sunday morning?

[ben crosland]

Ben doesn't look a day over 35,

:D 37 and counting..

[pseudonym]

well in that case, it is conceivable for you to have had your first keyboard on your 7th birthday...

</pushing the joke too far>

[ben crosland]

I started piano when I was 4 or 5 - first synth was an SH101 when I was about 15.

[pseudonym]

lucky ****** ;)

[ben crosland]

lucky ****** ;)

Had to do the washing-up every night for about 3 months to pay my parents back for it, mind ;)

[pseudonym]

bargain

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Ben, do you have any real analog synths at the moment? Did you buy that SH101 new or second hand? I wonder how much they cost new in the 80's...

DS

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Oh and btw...does anyone here know what the hold up is with the new TI?? It would be nice to know what the 'problem' is and yes, it would be nice to have some shipping dates thrown at us...just to keep us interested :)

* Oh, and would the moderators plz take off the damn 'you can't post so soon after a post has already been made' shite off. I dont have time to waste...hehe :lol:

DS

[Nord]

I dont belive anyone know anything about the date mate.
I couldnt wait anymore, so I decided to get other gear instead :P
A virus C desktop, Supernova II rack, CS6R and EX5 :D

Man i love these synths :lol:
Especially the virus ;)

[pseudonym]

aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


WHERE IS THIS SYYYYYYYYYYYYYNTH?


Having sailed through a period of forgetting about my order (due to being so busy with work and stuff) I'm now back in the waiting room clawing at the walls...

[ben crosland]

Ben, do you have any real analog synths at the moment?

Nope.

Did you buy that SH101 new or second hand?

Brand spanking new.

I wonder how much they cost new in the 80's...

About ?225 IIRC..

[tranzash]

Atleast something is shipping :D



http://www.clavia.se/news/stage_shipping.htm

[i3]

Oh and btw...does anyone here know what the hold up is with the new TI?? It would be nice to know what the 'problem' is and yes, it would be nice to have some shipping dates thrown at us...just to keep us interested :)
DS

cmon DS you know that the price of the sh-101 in the 80s and amongst the other ?s are more important then the TI problems and shipping. Only the important questions get answered here.

[i3]

Atleast something is shipping :D



http://www.clavia.se/news/stage_shipping.htm

http://www.clavia.se/bilder/NordStageNo1_.jpg

At least someones getting something right...Its looking more and more appealing.

"Nord Stage now shipping!

A historical moment was yesterday when the first fully weighted 88 keys product "Nord Stage 88" was build at the Clavia production line. The boys on the picture are the happy production team.The developers where gone fishing........

I think the access team got lost on their fishing trip!

[JanFalstroe]

So I'm gonna buy a Nord Rack 3 instead of the TI now.
If I knew that before.....

[technomonster]

well my hair has greyed above the ears,

my bald patch is increasing.

now comes the worst. i have developed the 'SHINGLES' due to panic fo not having the synth i am basing my setup around.

it bloody hurts.

where's the TI?????????

[RustyCox]

Korg, Yamaha, Roland have all had serious delays at some point in time and are all still in business. I wished I worked for Access. I own a Virus C that I bought off ebay and work at a local music store in Nashville, TN. Some of you guys are extremely paranoid and really need to get a life. The next thing you'll be posting is "Access is involved in a government conspiracy to take over the synth industry.:)

[ben crosland]

Hey Rusty, wanna buy an asbestos suit? ;)

[i3]

what? dont get it. :?

[technomonster]

"Access is involved in a government conspiracy to take over the synth industry.

sounds logical to me

[Timo]

what? dont get it. :?

Asbestos suit = A flame-resistant outfit.

PS > Your sig is a bit offensive, m8.

[dries]

"Korg, Yamaha, Roland have all had serious delays at some point in time and are all still in business. I wished I worked for Access. I own a Virus C that I bought off ebay and work at a local music store in Nashville, TN. Some of you guys are extremely paranoid and really need to get a life. The next thing you'll be posting is "Access is involved in a government conspiracy to take over the synth industry."

i'm not paranoid, and i happen to have a life - a pretty bussy one actualy.

korg, yamaha and roland are very large companies they can easily survive a major fuck up - access is very small (< 50 employees) that's critical.

i own a virus C - and the Ti is a serious option to me. actualy i have always been a satisfied access customer.

what surprises me, is that some companies build up a good quality reputation and image within several years, to destroy it within a couple of months.

all access has to do, is update their homepage with an offical statement for the delay.

it's like waiting for the train with a delay; when you know why and you know when the train comes you can live with it; when you just hear nothing and stand there just waiting for hours and nothing happens and nobody says when the train will arrive you're pretty pissed off.

the access boss should know that.

[MADSTATION]

Totally agree here :)

[i3]

what? dont get it. :?

Asbestos suit = A flame-resistant outfit.

PS > Your sig is a bit offensive, m8.

Asbestos suit = A flame-resistant outfit. I get that...thats commen since but what does that have to do with anything? Flaming thread? elaborate.

about the sig, eh touchy bout the special olympics I see...dint know we had a fan for the sport...got to let me know of these things...well I find alot of things offensive here but I dont complain. Ill change it just for you. :lol:

PS > Im not going to get rocks and stones thrown at me from religous buffs for my avatar am I?

[jasedee]

This thread is getting nasty again!

Lets try and keep a sense of humour here guys....there's no point arguing and bitching amongst ourselves, it accomplishes nothing.

Edit: I dont get the asbestos suit thing either....what up?

[ben crosland]

I dont get the asbestos suit thing either....what up?

Just a light-hearted reference to a part of RustyCox's post which seemed a tad inflammatory to me, that's all. No big deal.

[Hollowcell]

I think now is a good time to butt in and tell you the latest word from my trust-worthy distributor......Only this time it's about Clavia!!!!

Clavia, not happy with releasing a synth that takes 5 guys to hold the thing up for a picture, decide to bring out the heaviest peice of gear since the Yamaha Electone!

The "StageCrewAndLightingRig" workstation/performance keyboard.

Sick of bringing lights to the party?
Sick of having no roadies to wipe your arse?
Sick of technolgy getting smaller?

Well this is the beast for you.

Wanna be a star? If yes, please contact Clavia about the "StageCrewAndLightingRig".

[midislut]

I HAVE A NORD !!!!

I WANT THE TI AND I WANT IT NOW.... :evil: :evil: :evil:

i am screaming on purpose

its nearly August or am i dreaming....

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

......some of you guys are extremely paranoid and really need to get a life. The next thing you'll be posting is "Access is involved in a government conspiracy to take over the synth industry.:)

Nope, we've already exhausted this idea

:lol:

DS

[Nord]

Hey take a closer look at this link
http://www.vengeance-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=2351&boardid=2&styleid=1&sid=1243de01bfc47af15a70d621e4fab661&page=2

I dont speak german that well.
But at the last page, the last post. He says that a music store in Germany has the TI already.
Maybe its just a rumour, I dont know.
But I know the people on vengeance forum, and they're not the one that spread rumours around them.

(maybe its me. As I said I dont speak german that good, but I think he means that a music store in germany has the TI already. For a preview. I could be wrong)

[dries]

manuel schleiss says he has a Ti and he works on its soundset - and that the Ti is downward compatible. he thinks a sounddemo will not go online, but access hat to decide.

he can / may not say anything more - all other stuff is speculation.

another guy (paralizer) says that Howard Scarr also has a Ti and that he writes the manual.

[Hollowcell]

A word from my distributor....

The TI IS in some selected shops!

But the OS won't be out for another few months - depending on Beta testing.

However, advertising and rumor mongering will still released on a regular basis. :D

[ten]

manuel schleiss says he has a Ti and he works on its soundset - and that the Ti is downward compatible. he thinks a sounddemo will not go online, but access hat to decide.

he can / may not say anything more - all other stuff is speculation.

another guy (paralizer) says that Howard Scarr also has a Ti and that he writes the manual.


You would think people writing sounds for the TI and the person writing the manual would actually need one of the synths, or is that mean being stupid?

ten

[dries]

manuel schleiss says he has a Ti and he works on its soundset - and that the Ti is downward compatible. he thinks a sounddemo will not go online, but access hat to decide.

he can / may not say anything more - all other stuff is speculation.

another guy (paralizer) says that Howard Scarr also has a Ti and that he writes the manual.


You would think people writing sounds for the TI and the person writing the manual would actually need one of the synths, or is that mean being stupid?

ten

that's what i said in my posting dude; manuel and howard both have a Ti.

[jasedee]

I think what Ten was trying to say Dries, is that you were stating the obvious.....

Dont mind him though, he is having severe Ti withdrawls, and the sarcasm is a side effect of going cold turkey ;)

I have a friend that can get some organic herbs, apparently they help with the Ti withdrawls

[ten]

Hey, someones gotta be the anti-christ ;)

Some organic herbs would be great.....some synthetic ones would be great to :)

ten

[RustyCox]

my apologies if I offended anyone, I was just trying to lighten up the general gloom and doom that seems to be overhanging this forum. (rumours running rampant) hence the smiley face on the original post! :)

[Hollowcell]

my apologies if I offended anyone, I was just trying to lighten up the general gloom and doom that seems to be overhanging this forum. (rumours running rampant) hence the smiley face on the original post! :)

No need for apologies Rusty.

Now back to the Rumors!

My distributor has mentioned the TI will be released somewhere in between soonish and laterish. Pretty soon those exact words will appear on the Access web site he tells me.

[acid1]

I was just trying to lighten up the general gloom and doom that seems to be overhanging this forum. (rumours running rampant)


yeah hear ya on that

[Keith Phillips]

Access hasn't made any sort of dates for the retailers I take it? Zzounds has 7/30/2005 listed but I have no idea if its been listed that way for a while...

http://www.zzounds.com/item--ACCVIRUSTIKB

Kind of new to the Virus TI "lateness" phenomenon. lol When I first hit this forum I thought they keyboard was already out.


Oh, and hello. :) Didn't stop by the new user board after registering.

[Keith Phillips]

Oh the baby picture is gone. :) That was very disturbing to say the least.

[Timo]

Welcome Keith! :D Pull up a seat........

[pseudonym]

you mean pull up a tent/coffin/cryostasis chamber...

[blay]

you mean pull up a tent/coffin/cryostasis chamber...

:lol:

gday keith - welcome to the wait.

cheers

blay

[obliterations]

Yeah I orderd a Virus TI Desktop. Im pretty excited to get it. Its paid for and I have been waiting for months. I heard there was a software problem with it and thats why production has been held up. Anyone know about this?

[Nord]

Guys.
Its pretty damn close now!!!

I talked with a friend the other day that import synths here to Sweden.
Every time I asked him about the relase of TI, he did not know. He didnt have any release date.

But last night he said that he got it confirmed that the release will be in late august. He did not know why the synth was delayed though.
But he said that its pretty damn close now!
The only thing he said about the delay, which he also got confirmed: It was the OS the caused the delay (but we already knew about this)
It crashed from time to time, and they didnt know why.
And it didnt work totally like a vst plugin. The problem was when you saved a song with presets, and when you loaded the song, you had to change the presets again.
But this should be fixed now.

I hope this info is correct, and belive me. My friend is not one of those who just say things thats not true/rumours.

:P

[ten]

yawn...

ten

[Hollowcell]

The problem was when you saved a song with presets, and when you loaded the song, you had to change the presets again.
But this should be fixed now.

My distributor has said the same thing actually! 8O

Apparantly they've gotten around the problem by using one of those old C64 tape drives - patch parameters, plus multi setups must be saved to cassette. :D

I really trust my distributor, because everything he has said has come true! Of course those of you who have read this track from the start know that already. :wink:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Pure mental illness

DS

[Onkel Dunkel]

Apparantly they've gotten around the problem by using one of those old C64 tape drives - patch parameters, plus multi setups must be saved to cassette. :D

Press play on tape to load patch :lol:

[Timo]

Apparantly they've gotten around the problem by using one of those old C64 tape drives - patch parameters, plus multi setups must be saved to cassette. :D

Press play on tape to load patch :lol:

Complete with retro "TI Syntax Error: Your OS is kaput"

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Its about time we start using old skool technology again. Sure, I used tape casettes to load patches into a Jupiter 8....and yes it took 2 days to load....

Ah they were the days

* Do any of you guys remember playing mid 80's computer games that required one to load up from casettes.....took like 10 mins to load!!

DS

[Keith Phillips]

Yea I remember playing games on an old Adam computer off of cassette. It was crazy :) Had to rewind it too after you played it. lol

[Keith Phillips]

It wasn't mine though. I had a TRS-80. (still do, and the damn thing still boots off of its original floppies; they must hae been sitting in 130+ deg. weather outside for years and years and years... amazing :P)

http://oldcomputers.net/trs80iii.html

This kid was pretty well off and his parents bought him everything, but I got to play games with him on his computer. It was pretty much a thousand times better than my TRS-80 (not really, but graphics were everything in a kids eyes.) :)

http://oldcomputers.net/adam.html

I remember how weird this computer was, the printer had to be on to use it because it powered the entire system. lol

[Keith Phillips]

Press play on tape to load patch :lol:

So would this be considered an analog synth now? :)

[Onkel Dunkel]

Its about time we start using old skool technology again. Sure, I used tape casettes to load patches into a Jupiter 8....and yes it took 2 days to load....

Wouldn?t it be easier just to re-program the patch from scratch :lol:


* Do any of you guys remember playing mid 80's computer games that required one to load up from casettes.....took like 10 mins to load!!

Then it must have been a very small game. I remember sitting in front of the screen winding and rewinding the tape looking for that special pattern of funny cloured stripes and then waited for half an hour just to find out that the game didn?t work :? But then came the revolutionary 5 1/4" diskdrive (noisy as hell). Boy that was rocket fast loading times and as a side reward you could buy single sided disk and cut them in the side so that they became double sided for half the price. Oh, the days it was 8)

Hi-tech = Load "wonderboy",8,1



Press play on tape to load patch :lol:

So would this be considered an analog synth now? :)

Well at least your patches are stored analog :lol:

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Do any of you guys remember circa 1987 amiga games like...

ELITE
F-16
LEISURE SUIT LARRY

etc etc

Oh boy....i had so much fun playing those. In '87 the Amiga 500 was the dogs bollox of computer gaming....

DS

[Onkel Dunkel]

LEISURE SUIT LARRY


Oh boy, did i love that game. "So, what kind of lubbers would you like sir? Pebermint, rippled, coloured, etc. etc. etc." and so on for 5 minutes :lol: I think i still have all the Larry games on some CD-rom somewhere. If you would like to recall memories, Larry 1 is abandomware now and free to download 8)

Edit: Maybe your right. Things where better in the 80?s :lol:

[Onkel Dunkel]

By the way: Giana Sisters. A classic for Amiga :D

[Hollowcell]

Great memories are still attached to my old C64 - trying to copy games in a shitty double deck recorder, breaking all my old Atari joysticks with California games and hearing my first "real" sound sample on a computer (a second long clip of "gunna be a kung fu fighter").

I'm really happy Access are deciding to go the tape route. They are even talking about putting in a colour screen, so you can watch the coloured stripes flash as the patches load. :D

[Nord]

yeah yeah yeah..
Screw you all :lol: (just kidding)

Im only telling you what I've been tolded.
And I really trust my friend :)

But he could been given the wrong info, I dont know.
Bah, lets just wait and see :P

10 dollars Im right!
Whos in? 8)

[pseudonym]

I really trust my distributor, because everything he has said has come true! Of course those of you who have read this track from the start know that already. :wink:

Apart from the June 20th release date ;)

[Hollowcell]

I really trust my distributor, because everything he has said has come true! Of course those of you who have read this track from the start know that already. :wink:

Apart from the June 20th release date ;)

Everyone is entitled to one mistake I guess. Hold on, I think he was talking about the June 20th 2006 release. :D

10 dollars Im right!
Whos in?

I'm in! As long as the tenner is of the vitual kind of course.

[CJ]

does anyone remember this?

http://www.access-music.de/products.php4?product=virusd

the Virus TI is just like the ?black helicopter?. You hear a lot ABOUT it, but you never hear IT or SEE it.

[Doc Jones]

does anyone remember this?

http://www.access-music.de/products.php4?product=virusd

the Virus TI is just like the ?black helicopter?. You hear a lot ABOUT it, but you never hear IT or SEE it.
what the heck is that? and why is it on access's site?

[Timo]

does anyone remember this?

http://www.access-music.de/products.php4?product=virusd

the Virus TI is just like the ?black helicopter?. You hear a lot ABOUT it, but you never hear IT or SEE it.
what the heck is that? and why is it on access's site?

It was just to tantalise before we even knew of such a thing as a Virus T...., er, um... a T...., err, no. Sorry, I can't recall. :lol:

[pseudonym]

ha.

I _wish_ I could forget.

[Hollowcell]

Access marketing really out did them selves with the TI fuck up didn't they? :D

[Timo]

Access marketing really out did them selves with the TI fuck up didn't they? :D

What continues to amuse me is their double-page centrefold Virus T, er, um - I forget - advert spread still appearing every month in SOS.

They must really enjoy winding up new customers and old pre-paid customers alike.

Kinda like PMT, but on paper. :D

[ben crosland]

=
What continues to amuse me is their centrefold double-page advert spread still appearing every month in SOS. 8O

They must really enjoy winding up new customers and old pre-paid customers alike. :D

Access don't place those ads - it's the distributors (Turnkey in this case).

[Timo]

=
What continues to amuse me is their centrefold double-page advert spread still appearing every month in SOS. 8O

They must really enjoy winding up new customers and old pre-paid customers alike. :D

Access don't place those ads - it's the distributors (Turnkey in this case).

I imagine Turnkey are racking up a tidy sum with the interest on all those pre-orders, at the expense of exacerbating the non-materialising T.., um, er, synth... issue. 8O

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I wonder how this works....is it really beneficial to Turnkey to keep publishing full page spreads of the Virus TI line.....who pays for the advertising space. Access must be footing the bill in order to keep the publicity going....advertising is not cheap.

You know guys, the TI will be released one of these days....and when it is....the frustration we all endured will subside....then overtime people will come to respect the fact Access released a product with minimum bugs.

This Brazilian weed is well good...

DS :lol:

[Hollowcell]

Access don't place those ads - it's the distributors (Turnkey in this case).

Unfortunately this is still the fault of Access for giving out a release date in the first place. It was such a pitty that all of this had to happen. Someone at Access must have known that the OS wasn't ready - if so, why was it let get as far as it did?

Anyway, my distributor still is sticking by his story! The TI will be released within the next month with a colour screen and a C64 tape drive to load in patches. :D

[technomonster]

actually its good that at least ben crossland is inputting in this forum.

at least someone who has links to ACCESS.

ben has also never said the the ACCESS VIRUS TI wiill not be coming out.

so i have made a big print of the TI - very close to the 47 cm wide, infact 40 (my print) and have it in the spot on my desk designed for it. i am already composing mentally with it, going through the manual.

it sounds better than my previous compositions, no faulty notes.

just noticed another 6 hairs fall onto my table just then.
just staring at the TI print, the sexiest synth ever seen, i am telling ya.

i thought the JP-8080 looked fantastic.

[Doc Jones]

i am already composing mentally with it . . .
yup technomonster . . . you've got a bad case of the TI blues. I know, because I did the same thing!

[pseudonym]

just noticed another 6 hairs fall onto my table just then.

LOL, this happening to you too - I wonder if this is common among synth waiting losers.

[obliterations]

I saved and saved, Then put in the order.
I've been waiting for my virus for so long...
when I get its going to be like I got it for free.

I like the idea of a tape drive...Maybe they should bring back the hexadecimal screens like on the Ensoniq Mirage while they are at it.
Oohh Ohh, and the Akai Smart media disks.

[amphibious]

Has ANY synth made by ANY decent manufacturer been released on time EVER?

No.

You can't compare anything to the Virus TI, it will be head and shoulders above any competing synth, you could even say that about the Virus C. Other synths certainly have their place, but in the virtual analog market the Virus is king and the Virus TI will be the best VA synth until the next Virus comes out.

I'd much rather wait until whatever problems they are having are fixed than have a synth with bugs. Any owner of Waldorf synths can attest to that. Not a single one of their synths is bug free. They kept putting off fixing them, chalking it up to having a small design team and that switching between different sets of code for each synth would slow down the entire process because they would have to reacclimate themselves to the code... and what happened in the end? Waldorf made dozens of promises that things would get fixed and then went out of business. Now there are thousands of Waldorf synths and Waldorf synth owners with synths that don't work how they were supposed to.

Wait. It'll be worth it. I'd rather have a perfectly functional synth a year from now than a buggy synth today.

(BTW, I'd like to think the delay is because they are adding Linux support ;), I also posted this on another forum, so if you're reading it twice I'm sorry if that offends you...)

[Househead]

Now there are thousands of Waldorf synths and Waldorf synth owners with synths that don't work how they were supposed to.

Wait. It'll be worth it. I'd rather have a perfectly functional synth a year from now than a buggy synth today.

Good point Amphibious...Just imagine Access out of business in 1 year :?

Saying that have they been IN business for the last year :roll:

[F5D]

My MicroQ and Pulse work very well here. No problems at all. Shame what happened to Waldorf.

Access bit a completely new set of problems by bringing the usb and plugin integration into a synthesizer. Standard midi & audio connections would have been problem free. I would have been happy if they just released a virus d with TI specs but without the total integration. An Adat optical out with 8 separate channels would have been a nice replacement for the usb and TI stuff. And they still could use that vst-like GUI but just to control the synth.

[obliterations]

My MicroQ and Pulse work very well here. No problems at all. Shame what happened to Waldorf.

Access bit a completely new set of problems by bringing the usb and plugin integration into a synthesizer. Standard midi & audio connections would have been problem free. I would have been happy if they just released a virus d with TI specs but without the total integration.

Personally I think the "Total Integration" is a great idea. The midi connection is out dated. If it were up to me I would replace it with some sort of usb connection that could be used keyboard to keyboard or keyboard to computer. Might just make the midi interface obsolete. It would also make it possible for every keyboard to record straight to Hard disk without having to buy an interface with digital ins. Access is going in the right direction.

[Midi_Glider]

Personally I think the "Total Integration" is a great idea....


Well, only if you can make the damn thing work... :roll:



Best,
midi.

[Keith Phillips]

Well, only if you can make the damn thing work... :roll:


Hahah yea :)

I think it is the way forward though. It will be nice just having the 1 connection for both audio and MIDI style interface. Since its not Firewire its a bit more compatible with computers as well. Definately a good thing.

[blay]

Since its not Firewire its a bit more compatible with computers as well. Definately a good thing.

This is my biggest gripe with the specs of the TI.
You honestly believe USB1@12mb/s is better then firewire@400mb/s just because more crap packaged home pcs come with a usb port? beh.
The only thing that would make this rediculous delay excusable would be if access were actually taking the time to upgrade the usb to firewire (400 or 800) outputs (about as much chance of this as the TI arriving before the end of this year).

cheers

blay

[Keith Phillips]

You sure about those specs? Hi-speed USB is like 480mbit/sec I believe. Those speeds I don't think would be really necessary even unless it had sampling. I think the TI specs exceed its capabilities and requirements IMO.

I might be wrong though but I thought the TI was on Hi-speed USB2 specs.

[obliterations]

I might be wrong though but I thought the TI was on Hi-speed USB2 specs.

Naw, from what I heard from a friend of friend... whos ex-boyfriend looked like a girlfriend I had back in Feb. They are taking out the USB and replacing it with a 50pin SCSI cable.

On a serious note. I think the USB 2.0 is faster than the Firewire 400. But not faster than the Firewire 800.

The Access Virus specks say:
"USB2 compatible device, 12Mbit data transfer rate"

Of course by the time we get the Virus TI Im sure the USB cable will be obsolete, Younger kids will start calling me "Sir".

[ten]

This has been done to death...

The TI is only usb2 compatible, which means it will work in usb2 or usb1 slots....wow, cool huh? :) It does not run at usb2 speed, though...it is only 12mb.

In fact its not all about the speed, its the medium, interface and actual protocol. Usb2 may well be faster than firewire 1394a (400), but the protocol itself is piss poor. Remember, usb was designed for anal things like mouse's, keyboards, joysticks etc....firewire was designed for highend streaming video, backup hard drives, dv camcorders. Again I stress its not purely about speeds, its about protocol, communication, quality and reliablility...all of which firewire is > than usb buy a LARGE amount.

I wouldnt be at all suprised if the usb implementation is whats causing the delay, being the root of the problems they are having because its actually a bollocks protocol to use for anything audio, especially low latency devices like the TI NEEDS to be. Usb soundcards are reknown for being utter shit, have large latencies, being generally unreliable and basically cheap alternatives......which at the end of the day is what it all boils down to, money. Firewire would of been a costly (a lot? I very much doubt it and the large number of virus purchasers WOULD of paid more for it) to implement and it would of seriously culled the market of the synth.....everyone has usb ports right? especially the shitty ones that run at 12mbs? Huge market there, much more appealing to a company selling a product like this :)

Only time will tell if that was the right decision or not.... personally with 2 stereo chan outputs (over usb) on a 16 sound multimbral synth in this day and age which the technology we have I seriously doubt it........especially if they cant even get that working :roll:

ten

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

This has been done to death...

The TI is only usb2 compatible, which means it will work in usb2 or usb1 slots....wow, cool huh? :) It does not run at usb2 speed, though...it is only 12mb.

In fact its not all about the speed, its the medium, interface and actual protocol. Usb2 may well be faster than firewire 1394a (400), but the protocol itself is piss poor. Remember, usb was designed for anal things like mouse's, keyboards, joysticks etc....firewire was designed for highend streaming video, backup hard drives, dv camcorders. Again I stress its not purely about speeds, its about protocol, communication, quality and reliablility...all of which firewire is > than usb buy a LARGE amount.

I wouldnt be at all suprised if the usb implementation is whats causing the delay, being the root of the problems they are having because its actually a bollocks protocol to use for anything audio, especially low latency devices like the TI NEEDS to be. Usb soundcards are reknown for being utter shit, have large latencies, being generally unreliable and basically cheap alternatives......which at the end of the day is what it all boils down to, money. Firewire would of been a costly (a lot? I very much doubt it and the large number of virus purchasers WOULD of paid more for it) to implement and it would of seriously culled the market of the synth.....everyone has usb ports right? especially the shitty ones that run at 12mbs? Huge market there, much more appealing to a company selling a product like this :)

Only time will tell if that was the right decision or not.... personally with 2 stereo chan outputs (over usb) on a 16 sound multimbral synth in this day and age which the technology we have I seriously doubt it........especially if they cant even get that working :roll:

ten

Interesting response Ten. However, Im a little unsure as to just how much potential Virus users would be prepared to pay for it. Surely people who really want the Virus within a host sequencer would be better off with the PowerCore thingy. Isnt that cheaper? Better? Or does life depend on the hypersaw?

I dont know....im skeptical about modern technology. Lets go back to using polyphonic synths using mono outputs and rudimentary midi. It got the job done then...it was good enough :lol:

DS

[ten]

Of course there are people who couldnt care less about the TI side of things, I am one of them. I personally could live without it and just have hardware implementation as were the older virus's. Of course the TI part would be very cool but its still more of a luxery than anything else. And if you're going to do something at all, do it right from the start instead of a half assed bodge job which this is turning out to be......

.....even in this very basic implementation of TI (usb1 speed, 2 stereo outputs) they are STILL having trouble getting it work, and has set them back nearly a year. As many have already said they could of released it as a full functional hardware version and worked on the TI crap behind the scenes until they finally cracked it, but oooooh no :) Live and learn eh.

As for the virus powercore, its simply laughable and you cant really compare the two. If they did the decent thing and upgraded it to C spec with 32 poly, all the mod routines, new filters, eq, etc and so forth it would actually be a very nifty little synth and worth something......oh and the simple fact its been out for over a year now, is at revision 1.1 and they still cant get even the basic features/functions working shows just how much trouble Access actually are having getting things to work in vst land.

ten

[ben crosland]

As for the virus powercore, its at revision 1.1 and they still cant get even the basic features/functions working shows just how much trouble Access actually are having getting things to work in vst land.

ten

ten - what basic features still aren't working in version 1.1?

[Midi_Glider]

As many have already said they could of released it as a full functional hardware version and worked on the TI crap behind the scenes until they finally cracked it, but oooooh no Live and learn eh.

Well, perhaps if they havn`t rushed that poor announcment last November and dug themselvs that huge hole they are currently in. they can`t simply retract the TI part now, can they? what a mistake that was...



Best,
midi.

[ten]

Ben,

Check the powercore forum for all the problems. Some very annoyed people there who have had problems since Day1 with it.

I personally am still having a patch changing problem, the arp still looses sync every now and then (although it is better), and I think there may also be a new bug introduced even with arp note on, although I have to look into it more.

ten

[F5D]

I have no problems with virus powercore unlimited license here. It's working very well in logic now and I have no plans to buy a TI. I get 4 stereo outs directly to the logic's mixer with every single virus instance. TI will have only 2 stereo outputs for 16 channels? With virus powercore, I get a _stereo_ output for every single channel. My default project has 2 viruses pre-loaded with 8 channels and 8 stereo outs. If I need more virus sounds, I just load another.

The virus plugin may still have some problems but I don't see them and maybe not even use all the features so I could see them. I haven't tested the automation yet, so I cannot say about it and I never use the arpeggiator. I will report if the automation doesn't work but cannot say yet. Last time I controlled the cutoff with midi cc and it worked well.

I had a KC, so I know what the C sounds like. They sound the same if you don't use the C's eq. I did some comparison and same sound patches sounded identical after I applied a correct eq for the powercore plugin. I even made some sound clips where suddenly the KC switched to virus poco etc. and nobody could hear that the synth was switched on the fly even I showed them that it really did. I have no use for the "moog"-filter at all. The original virus filter sounds what I like. The eq's are the only thing I miss about my KC but I can replace it with sony oxford eq or logic channel eq and tweak even more if I need.

Maybe I will purchase a TI2 in the future.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

It would be nice to think that the Virus TI delay was due in part that they were refitting Fireware instead of USB1 and that the OS had been re-written accordingly. But that wont happen....its just a shame

I wish Access could try and keep us informed on developments over in Germany. At this rate one could justifiably conclude that no progress has been made since December 2004. Im not sure what kinda reaction Access is expecting when they do finally release the TI....are they hoping everyone one will drop everything to get 'more of what you loved' about the original?

Come on, the silence is killer.

DS

[ben crosland]

Come on, the silence is killer.

'Information' would be just as frustrating, I can assure you. It would give you absolutely no better idea as to when it would be ready, as any one 'issue' or 'bug' is not solved in a pre-determined time-frame, meaning it could be just as misleading in a positive way as it could be in a negative way.

[Timo]

Come on, the silence is killer.

'Information' would be just as frustrating, I can assure you. It would give you absolutely no better idea as to when it would be ready, as any one 'issue' or 'bug' is not solved in a pre-determined time-frame, meaning it could be just as misleading in a positive way as it could be in a negative way.

I don't believe it would. No-one wants to know all the individual problems, just the overall picture. None of us know anything about what went wrong, and people are in limbo after having sold their gear and putting their studios on hold since last December. Pre-orders have been paid for, even, I think. (Surely that's illegal, though?!)

Are we looking at the possibility of another quarter, christmas, another year? What?

Not getting on at you, Ben, it's not your doing. You always try to help out where you can, and you're brill. :) Just this wall of silence from Access themselves. They've always been communicative and diplomatic in the past. =/
I just feel sorry for the guys who've ordered and haven't known - and still don't know - what to do for the best, in grabbing other 2nd hand gear for the time being, or holding on, or what. etc.

[MADSTATION]

Totally agree with Timo here!
And F5D has some really good points :)

[obliterations]

Come on, the silence is killer.
DS

No kidding. I keep checking up on there web-site in hopes of some sort of hint as to whats going on. Why they wouldn't post some sort of news update is beyond me. Even a projected shipping date would be fine, or a "Hello we are still hard at work". Photos of the plant to show the TI really exists. How about a poster for every pre-order so we can pretend we have one in our studios.

Its no secret that the TI isnt shipping. Now all we get are roomers. Are they going out of business? Was there a fire at the factory? Corp. Fraud? Cant get enough paper mache and duct tape to build the units?

I WANNA KNOW!

I have no problem waiting for them to fix whats wrong, cause I like knowing Im getting quality. I have a friend who is buying something else cause he doesnt wanna wait. In the end its his loss. I just hope thats not to much of a trend cause I wanna see Access do well.

A little info might help.

[technomonster]

actually i e-mailed access and they said that they were hard at it.

they replied to my e-mail real nice,

and they are cetainly working their buts off to get it out as quick as possible and in excellent working order

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Come on, the silence is killer.
DS

No kidding. I keep checking up on there web-site in hopes of some sort of hint as to whats going on. Why they wouldn't post some sort of news update is beyond me. Even a projected shipping date would be fine, or a "Hello we are still hard at work". Photos of the plant to show the TI really exists. How about a poster for every pre-order so we can pretend we have one in our studios.

Its no secret that the TI isnt shipping. Now all we get are roomers. Are they going out of business? Was there a fire at the factory? Corp. Fraud? Cant get enough paper mache and duct tape to build the units?

I WANNA KNOW!

I have no problem waiting for them to fix whats wrong, cause I like knowing Im getting quality. I have a friend who is buying something else cause he doesnt wanna wait. In the end its his loss. I just hope thats not to much of a trend cause I wanna see Access do well.

A little info might help.

Im sure we will have some communication from Access by December '05 either as confirmation of shipping or confirmation of liquidation. Waldorf went quiet for approximately 12 months before dispanding.

DS

[MacQ]

Knowing how the software development world works, it could have been something as stupid as a developer who quit and had really poorly documented code that was buggy. That happened to a company I worked for, and they had to scramble and make up bullshit excuses because their development lead had left them high and dry ... all at a time when they were trying to woo a big-fish client (read: millions at stake). So they could have projected a realistic timeframe that suddenly quadrupled because someone left ... or died, or stubbed his toe, etc.

Either way, the only thing that the Powercore Virus doesn't offer me is EQ and polyphony, but there are ways around both. So I'll wait until it ships ... it'll probably come eventually.


~MacQ

[technomonster]

hey digital screams!!!, you have claimed that you have a carillon computer and delta 1010.

it sounds like a perfect setup.
whats the hardware synths monitoring throught cubase latency like, as opposed to hardware synths monitored via mixer latency.

have you measred in milliseconds. does it get less than 10 milliseconds through cubase.
with my computer it is unfortunately 17 milliseconds that way.

i should have bought a carillon computer, i have the delta 1010 which is great.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Hi Techy

You must also use the VSE forums? Cool if you do 8)

Well strictly speaker thats my m8's set up but I use it all the time (im still at uni, he graduated 5 years ago).

There is no latency at all running hard synths through the cubase mixer! The Carilion is a very nice audio computer to work with...for those who havent heard about them...here they are >> http://www.carillondirect.com/clnweb/index.jsp?country=UK

For the money I still think the Delta 1010 is the best sounding card....it too has near zero latency when paired appropriate hardware.

DS

[obliterations]

I have subscription to FM and noticed there are no advertisements for Access? Seems like a mag they would be in. Anyone notice if there are ads in other mags? :?:

[Timo]

I have subscription to FM and noticed there are no advertisements for Access? Seems like a mag they would be in. Anyone notice if there are ads in other mags? :?:

A double-page spread has been in SOS every month since last Nov/Dec.

[jasedee]

There is an advert in Audio Technology magazine in Australia too, but the ad is placed by a reseller, not distributor.

[Sleepwalker]

I have no problems with virus powercore unlimited license here. It's working very well in logic now and I have no plans to buy a TI. I get 4 stereo outs directly to the logic's mixer with every single virus instance. TI will have only 2 stereo outputs for 16 channels? With virus powercore, I get a _stereo_ output for every single channel. My default project has 2 viruses pre-loaded with 8 channels and 8 stereo outs. If I need more virus sounds, I just load another.

The virus plugin may still have some problems but I don't see them and maybe not even use all the features so I could see them. I haven't tested the automation yet, so I cannot say about it and I never use the arpeggiator. I will report if the automation doesn't work but cannot say yet. Last time I controlled the cutoff with midi cc and it worked well.

I had a KC, so I know what the C sounds like. They sound the same if you don't use the C's eq. I did some comparison and same sound patches sounded identical after I applied a correct eq for the powercore plugin. I even made some sound clips where suddenly the KC switched to virus poco etc. and nobody could hear that the synth was switched on the fly even I showed them that it really did. I have no use for the "moog"-filter at all. The original virus filter sounds what I like. The eq's are the only thing I miss about my KC but I can replace it with sony oxford eq or logic channel eq and tweak even more if I need.

Maybe I will purchase a TI2 in the future.

Innteresting points. I have a KC, could it be used as a controller for the virus powercore? Here we go, Total Integration!? :lol:

[pseudonym]

Hey, I consulted my 8 Ball today (the type full of water which you shake whilst asking a question, to be presented with an answer in the form of a floating disc...)

Guess what... Access WILL announce shipping of the Virus TI next week.


The 8 Ball is never wrong - it even told me I would marry my dream girl one day...

[midislut]

Hey, I consulted my 8 Ball today (the type full of water which you shake whilst asking a question, to be presented with an answer in the form of a floating disc...)

Guess what... Access WILL announce shipping of the Virus TI next week.


The 8 Ball is never wrong - it even told me I would marry my dream girl one day...

your 8 ball has talked to my 8 ball and they dont seem to agree !!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[pseudonym]

no no no, I will marry her...

[obliterations]

Hey, I consulted my 8 Ball today (the type full of water which you shake whilst asking a question, to be presented with an answer in the form of a floating disc...)

Guess what... Access WILL announce shipping of the Virus TI next week.


The 8 Ball is never wrong - it even told me I would marry my dream girl one day...

Look what we've become. Looking to 8 balls for information. Thats really reaching. However it may be right. AMS (americanmusical.com) is now posting a date they will have the Ti in stock(8/30/05). They dropped it for a while. I would hope Access is going to fill all the pre-orders first. The place I orderd mine from (Guitar Center) Gave me a date of or around 8/26th - 8/28th.

So don't we have some Access official on this forum? If not someone should e mail the forum address to Access and invite them to sign up.
Wouldnt that be cool?

[MADSTATION]

obliterations: There used to be some official people from Access replying to us but for the last few months it's been pretty much dead.

[Doc Jones]

That's been my concern for some time - how can they stay solvent if they discontinued their main line of products over 8 months ago??

[marc]

obliterations: There used to be some official people from Access replying to us but for the last few months it's been pretty much dead.

saying nothing doesn't mean that we're not there. it also doesn't mean that we are in trouble as guessed in another post.

it means: we are working hard on it and we won't say anything before the press release stating that the TI is being released is out...

me replying here doesn't mean that i will reply to follow-up mails. you surely will understand.

best, marc

[obliterations]

obliterations: There used to be some official people from Access replying to us but for the last few months it's been pretty much dead.

saying nothing doesn't mean that we're not there. it also doesn't mean that we are in trouble as guessed in another post.

it means: we are working hard on it and we won't say anything before the press release stating that the TI is being released is out...

me replying here doesn't mean that i will reply to follow-up mails. you surely will understand.

best, marc

WOHA! Thanks for the response! This amazing! Im feeling a lot better! But wait a sec, How do we know you REALLY work for Access? ;) Watch this:

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Hi, my name is "Jeff" and I work for Access. We are currently developing the Virus XXX its really sounds really nasty. It has an iimage of Anna Nichole Smith in the nude painted across the front.... I mean it comes with Anna Nichole Smith as packaging... We are taking pre-orders now.

Oh, and dont expect me to respond to any e mails. We still havent cleard this with Trim Spa.

[marc]

obliterations: There used to be some official people from Access replying to us but for the last few months it's been pretty much dead.

saying nothing doesn't mean that we're not there. it also doesn't mean that we are in trouble as guessed in another post.

it means: we are working hard on it and we won't say anything before the press release stating that the TI is being released is out...

me replying here doesn't mean that i will reply to follow-up mails. you surely will understand.

best, marc

WOHA! Thanks for the response! This amazing! Im feeling a lot better! But wait a sec, How do we know you REALLY work for Access? ;) Watch this:

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Hi, my name is "Jeff" and I work for Access. We are currently developing the Virus XXX its really sounds really nasty. It has an iimage of Anna Nichole Smith in the nude painted across the front.... I mean it comes with Anna Nichole Smith as packaging... We are taking pre-orders now.

Oh, and dont expect me to respond to any e mails. We still havent cleard this with Trim Spa.

damn - i guess we stuck. both bound to obligations, but I guess this is just the vicious reality of operating on the bright side. me with access and others with http://www.trimspa.com/ - damn ...

marc

[Hollowcell]

Hi, my name is "Jeff" and I work for Access. We are currently developing the Virus XXX its really sounds really nasty. It has an iimage of Anna Nichole Smith in the nude painted across the front.... I mean it comes with Anna Nichole Smith as packaging... We are taking pre-orders now.


Thanks Jeff! Finally some info we can trust. I heard some rumors about this a few weeks ago, but to get it straight from Jeff's mouth is really great!
:D

So which knobs will be in the place of the nipples?

[obliterations]

So which knobs will be in the place of the nipples?

Jeff says: Havent named them yet, but when you twist them it creates a high pitch screaming sound. :P

[tranzash]

:lol: :lol:

[i3]

This is getting pathetic. :roll:

[MADSTATION]

Indeed hah

The release of Cubase SX3.1 seems pretty imminent(they are saying August)...One of the key features is that you'll be able to use any hardware just like a VST...Looking forward to see how it's going to be implemented! If it's good enough I'll probably get a 2nd hand virus b to satisfy my virus craving!

[Onkel Dunkel]

...One of the key features is that you'll be able to use any hardware just like a VST...

There?s your total integration :P

[Doc Jones]

yeah, that is the one feature of 3.1 that I am really looking forward to!

[Househead]

Are Access still bringing out the Virus TI :roll:

How long are they keep on going to say that this is not right or that is not right....2006 maybe?

:evil:

[obliterations]

Are Access still bringing out the Virus TI :roll:

How long are they keep on going to say that this is not right or that is not right....2006 maybe?

:evil:

I don't know but I have a feeling its coming soon. The date i've been given was bumped from "around the 26th or 28th of Aug." to "The 24th" Yes, Guitar Center in Portland Or. (USA) now has a solid date as to when I can expect it.

That alone is nothing spectacular. BUT there was someone on eBay just yesterday that was selling his Virus Power Core system.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TC-Electronic-Powercore-Firewire-w-Access-Virus-Synth_W0QQitemZ7343007795QQcategoryZ41784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

According to him:

"The Access Virus Indigo TI I ordered just came in, and I can't keep both, My loss, your gain....." Did he say TI?

Put the 2 together and you get a little bit excited! Now he could be full of it and a liar. Still no official word from Access. No press release.

And the one thing that really bothers me is the "Access Virus Indigo TI"
We are not waiting on the Indigo, but the Polar. Could be a typo. Dont know. Im gonna "ask the seller a question"

[MADSTATION]

lol and you really believe this?

haha.

if ANYONE would know when it's out...don't you think it would be displayed on the Access website? ;)

[Gopal]

LMAO!!!! People are still deluding themselves with distributor release dates and info from EBAY charlatans. :lol:

Always entertaining around here :twisted:

[Hollowcell]

The release of Cubase SX3.1 seems pretty imminent(they are saying August)...One of the key features is that you'll be able to use any hardware just like a VST...Looking forward to see how it's going to be implemented!

My guess is it will be by using audio routing rather than digital transfers. You'd probably need a sound card with many ins/outs to make it worth while.

But who knows, maybe they have figured out some new technology to transfer audio data through the normal midi ports on any synth!! :D Joke by the way.


So back to the TI.....

I hear on the grape vine that the TI will be released! Can't give any specific dates, but I can definitely say it's somewhere in between now and one day. :D

[inasense]

I just got my TI Polar. Then my wife had to wake me up. Damn! Hopefully soon the dream will be real. :(

[obliterations]

LMAO!!!! People are still deluding themselves with distributor release dates and info from EBAY charlatans. :lol:

Always entertaining around here :twisted:

Yea, I guess the people whos bussiness depends on things like shipping dates wouldn't really know anything. Who cares if they have taken money and placed orders for customers. What do they care once they have taken our money? We all know what Access has been telling the distributors about projected shipping dates cause we have thier offices bugged, so what the heck was I thinking? :P

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Fuck it. I just bought a DX7 MKii FD (no your not reading double....this one works!) and im very happy with it. Classic in every respect.

Ive used alot of keyboards....and I can hand on heart tell you all that if you are in need of great keyboard action then this is your synth. Both the DX and Virus use a semi weighted action....

BTW....all that crap you hear about the DX7 being impossible to program...thats a load of nonesense. I admit its alot easier to make bass and leads.....but where there's a will there is a way.

PS - I tell you guys.....after hearing one of these....i think everyone should own a cheap DX. The Rhodes, organs and bases....are amazing.

DS

[Onkel Dunkel]

I just checked for prices for a DX7. They?r really cheap 8O One of my friends?s dad has 2 DX7. Maybe i should ask i he wants to sell one of them. Or maybe not. My wife will rip my head of if i drag anymore gear home :wink:

[i3]

you can tell who the TI virgins and sluts are now in the forum. haha self delusion :lol: . well I payed for the TI at Guitar center december 2004 and Im sure the guy who sold it to me is wondering bout his commision haha. plus I think its funny the SX3 is coming out with its own version of total intergration. it was bound to happen. its in the market. so this might put access's panties in a bunch. if they want to be the first to release the technology and deam what rightfully theres, Maybe this will be the position they have to be put in to release the damn synth. geez its not the freakin holy grail.

[MacQ]

Cubase does not have total integration. It just has "slicker hardware routing and usage". It's basically like having a MIDI editor in your sequencer and the dedicated channels for the input. For what it's worth, though, it only works for a single stereo pair (at least that's what they've said on the Cubase forums). So ... it's sort of hit and miss. I use 4 x 2 channels from my XV5080, so I guess I'll just continue to do it the "old fashioned" way. Total integration is multi-channel audio and offline bouncing. This is just a hack. A useful hack, but a hack nonetheless.

~MacQ

[merlyn]

I can't believe that we're actually coming up on September, 8 months after the TI was supposed to be released and still no official word from Access. Amazing.

[Timo]

NEWSFLASH!!!!

TI EXTREME!!! (http://www.rockdirect.com/notebooks/xtremeti_cons.htm) :!: :!: :!: :!:

FIREWIRE AND USBv2!!!!!!!!! http://www.gobo.dsl.pipex.com/images/gremz/nubatch2/w00t.gif http://www.gobo.dsl.pipex.com/images/gremz/nubatch2/w00t.gif

Gimme! http://www.gobo.dsl.pipex.com/images/gremz/nubatch2/w00t.gif

[Onkel Dunkel]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[MADSTATION]

MacQ: The update is not out yet ;)

[Onkel Dunkel]

Oh boy, Virus TI actually is out now :D http://www.access-music.de/news.php4 (http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32rbotti.html)

[MacQ]

MacQ: The update is not out yet ;)

I know, I'm a Cubase user. In any case, I'm not holding my breath. Although, on re-reading the SOS article about 3.1, it mentions only one instance of a hardware "plugin", and not necessarily just a stereo pair. There is hope!

~MacQ

[Keith Phillips]

So I guess the "Virus TI" and the "TI Extreme" don't really go well together. lol :D

[Onkel Dunkel]

So I guess the "Virus TI" and the "TI Extreme" don't really go well together. lol :D

No that?s proberbly a bad idea :lol:

[Hollowcell]

Oh boy, Virus TI actually is out now :D http://www.access-music.de/news.php4 (http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32rbotti.html)

Hehehe, knew it! :D

[i3]

man that TI-X lappy looks the shit. that and the TI would scream! 8O

[obliterations]

Oh boy, Virus TI actually is out now :D

As for the REAL TI being out... Word from Guitar Center... The new expected date is Oct 3rd. :x WhhhhhaaaaaaaAAAAA!!!

[Keith Phillips]

Then Nov. 3rd, then Dec. 3rd, continue ad nauseum. :/

Was coming really close to getting a KC but I figured that $1,500 might be too much, but I'm not real sure...

[obliterations]

Then Nov. 3rd, then Dec. 3rd, continue ad nauseum.
Was coming really close to getting a KC but I figured that $1,500 might be too much, but I'm not real sure...

Yes, I keep thinking "What could I respend that money on?" but then I know that when it gets here I will want it regardless. Its like having a girlfriend you cant sleep with or touch.

:P

[Doc Jones]

Oh boy, Virus TI actually is out now :D http://www.access-music.de/news.php4 (http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32rbotti.html)
nice try my friend. After Hollowcell got me . . . I'm not falling for anything now :twisted: By the way, how is the Fantom doing?

[Onkel Dunkel]

Oh boy, Virus TI actually is out now :D http://www.access-music.de/news.php4 (http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32rbotti.html)
nice try my friend. After Hollowcell got me . . . I'm not falling for anything now :twisted: By the way, how is the Fantom doing?

Hehe, HC has got me a few times too. When the TI really is gonna get released no one will belive it :lol:
The Fantom is great. Really nice sounds (especially the acustic piano and nylon guitars). Still getting to know it (goddanm those manuals are getting bigger and bigger) so i havn?t really been playing much aruond with the sampler yet. If i have to say something bad about it then it must be that it?s goddanm big. It takes up so much space that i have to re-arange my setup some day soon :roll: Another thing is that now my real piano have to be stored away because that was the deal with my wife :cry: I wonder if i can get used to playing piano with synth-action keys :roll:

[pseudonym]

Man, I actually had a serious dream about getting the Virus TI last night.

It came in two parts; the rack and the keyboard. The rack was like a pre-power amp combination, and it filled the house with awesome tech sounds. Then I plugged the keyboard in and woke up because I was too excited.

This is insane!


Where the **** is it?!

[F5D]

I saw a dream (better say nightmare) 2 years ago. I was playing alesis andromeda in the dream and guess what happened when I woke up... It was just a dream. I didn't have the synth altough in the dream the damn synth was mine! :twisted:

In fact I felt so sad that I actually sold something and went to a music store and bought one. What a great purchase! I have never felt anything like I felt when I powered up my andro for the very first time. It was like a dream. :D

[Doc Jones]

I've been eyeing the andromeda for a while - how do the two synths - andromeda and virus compare?

[jasedee]

You know, I went to a store the other day and played with a Andromeda, a MiniMoog Voyager, and an ION, and honestly, the thing that impressed me most was the ION.

I was surprised to say the least....

The A6 just didnt sound that much better than a VA, the MiniMoog Voyager wasnt anything special although it did look damn cool.

The ION, at its relatively low price, ROCKED!

Strange...

[Doc Jones]

You know, a while back my sweetwater rep told me to pick up an ion as a good complement to my virus. I took a look at it online (no places has it on display here) saw the price and thought "it doesn't look too special" - but it just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. So, does it sound distinctly different than the sounds coming out of the virus c?

[MADSTATION]

Is the TI still in development?

[jasedee]

So, does it sound distinctly different than the sounds coming out of the virus c?
Well...I dont know about that. It certainley didnt sound as dark or aggressive as the Virus. These days, alot of the VA's are sounding kinda similar to me. I would say though that it is somewhere between a Nord and a Virus.

I dont know if I would get one though cos the Virus is better IMO (more voices, parts etc)

[pseudonym]

Hey folks,

Just thought I'd let you know that a dance music forum I frequent, the creators of which are responsible for writing this excellent book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0240519159/qid=1125641302/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/026-1574874-9118839

- have just announced the winner to a competition to win a Virus TI.

The competition winner was supposed to be announced in June, but the mods of the forum have been delaying the announcement of the winner, but not directly giving any indication that it was because of the delay in the Virus TI...

However, this announcement clearly states the wait was down to Access, and the wait is now over.


"...And finally, after such a long wait (bloody Access!!) The winner of the Liberty X competition is..."

From: http://www.dancemusicproduction.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=216&st=40


Does this mean they are on their way, or does it mean some poor bugger has won a glitched out Virus TI that only works with Cubase on Windows 2000?

pseudo

[merlyn]

Hmmm...the TI software must be pretty broken. That's my entry for "the most obvious statement" awards.

[blay]

...or the 'most obvious understatement' award.

[Tomer=Trance]

Heres a scenerio!
some dickhead worker erased all their cods by accident including all backups and for the past 6 months they are redeveloping the virus all over again,every programer throws a line of cod he remembers :D

[MADSTATION]

Well maybe they just CAN'T make it.
As far as I know they are the first company to attempt the concept of Total Integreation in a really convenient solution...

Now the product is going to come at least a year late with the same old features and that same old USB.

Am I still replying in that same old topic ? ;)

I'm most definately worried about the stability of the product...The Powercore Virus is still quite buggy yet just a plugin.

Time will tell..Hopefully!

[MacQ]

Yeah ...

Nearly 9 months and 1000 posts since this thread started, and still no TI. Oh well, at least I don't need it right now.

~MacQ

[Househead]

Like I said before...2006 maybe :roll:

How much longer is this company going to make people wait as I think 9 months overdue is certainly a pi55take :evil: :evil:

Big Big Sigh...

[Doc Jones]

Isn't there some type of major music showcase coming up next month? I would be very surprised if they were a no show this year (given that they were there last year with the TI) :?

[jsynthe]

Yes. It's the AES Convention in NYC October 7-10. I suspect that the delay of the TI release has something related to the next installment of Logic and/or Cubase/Nuendo, etc.

[Timo]

Heres a scenerio!
some dickhead worker erased all their cods by accident including all backups and for the past 6 months they are redeveloping the virus all over again,every programer throws a line of cod he remembers :D

Well, yeah, there is something a bit fishy about the whole business. :lol:

(Not sure if cod are reknowned worldwide, if not: Cod = a common and over-fished fish, at least here in the UK, most likely to be seen encapsulated in batter in local English Fish 'n Chip shops!)